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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 152 points 2 weeks ago

Not nearly enough.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 123 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

So let’s watch the denial rate at major insurance companies to see if it goes down.

Luigi’s trial will still be going on probably. I’m betting he’s going to drag it out as long as possible. His family is rich and influential so the trial is going to be a shit show, I hope.

And once we see a sudden (temporary) drop in denial rates, we can shit all over insurance executives again next quarter.

And the quarter after that when the denial rates sneak back up again.

Let’s just say I am really excited about shitting on that crew a lot.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 136 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 66 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

She should email back that Brian Thompson personally approved her mammogram and that they should check with him.

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[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

life expectancy and denial rates are now like KPI for me. these lines should be going up kinda like stock market, since this is all about "efficiency"

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 28 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah, it’s pure schadenfreude. But I am seriously coming around to the idea that shit-posting is a serious political tool. So I am planning my meme strategy around the release of these numbers.

This subject has the right emotional content to keep this issue in the public consciousness. Ever hear of ‘social peace’? Not for these shit heads.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 21 points 2 weeks ago

this is definitely a moment of unity. while issue is bigger than healthcare. healthcare can be the rallying topic and improving just health care would a big W.

social peace is elites' job to maintain but they are not interested in that.

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[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Hey look the Lemmy Ceo's are looking to ban users informing other users about jury nullification because apparently that's hate speech in Germany or some stupid bullshit.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

First I’ve read that his family has money. That’s really encouraging.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah apparently Baltimore country club types. People magazine has already done a thing on them.

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[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 75 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The fucking disgusting bit is that's less than 8%. So it's still only 3% lower than it was at the beginning of the year

How many people died for that line?

[–] ColonelPanic@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago

Yes but have you considered that line goes down? Line must never go down so further cuts must be made to ensure line goes up next quarter.

[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 59 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

It should be lower. This incident really put a spotlight on their claims denial rate being the highest in the industry, twice as high as industry average. A lot of customers will probably be leaving but that hit won't happen until later when the next billing cycle comes.

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Or the idiotic "open enrollment" period. Can't believe they only let us change health insurance once a year.

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[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

their subscriber numbers will dwindle down to shit. they are as good as having no insurance at all

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[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 52 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Oh no, the imaginary number is going down. Whatever shall we do?

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 50 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

And if Americans really did have the ability to shop around for the health insurance they wouldn't need in a sane country in this first place, this might be a good thing.

As it is, anyone with UHC (like my family) will end up paying a higher premium.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As it is, anyone with UHC (like my family) will end up paying a higher premium.

Rates for 2025 are set already.

You can't switch next cycle like the rest of people prolly gonna do?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Which "rest of people" get a choice of insurance providers from their employer?

Or do you mean pay a hell of a lot more for a plan the employer isn't offering?

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

fair point, well tell your employer to switch, also tell your coworkers.

you are deff on point that they will extract to punish for this. but staying with them is a bad business decision unless your employer is getting kick backs.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 29 points 2 weeks ago

Big companies will switch if the rates justify it, it's a yearly bidding war, and quite annoying when you have to change insurance cards and even a different provider because of things beyond your control. Healthcare should be nationalized and not tied to employment for so many reasons.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

well tell your employer to switch, also tell your coworkers.

Has that ever worked for you? Have you only worked in small businesses or something?

If things were that simple, the CEO wouldn't have been assassinated in the first place.

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[–] rarbg@lemmy.zip 49 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why are healthcare denials sent to and shouldered by patients? If you go to an in network facility, that place is vetted by insurer. So why isn't a 'denial' a matter between the provider and the insurer and transparent to the patient?

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why are there networks, health insurance companies, co-payments, payment disputes/ negotiations of prices, and people suffering from not receiving medical care?

Oh yeah, because this way it costs us significantly more and we can think we are doing better than others in life by acquiring a job where we have linked medical coverage too.

The fact that there are "classes" of healthcare is just repulsive.

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[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 45 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"value", it should be a service that is focused on servicing and have no value at all.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Still worth 490 Billion.

That's 1,000$ for every American.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Luigi, I can forgive a lot, but shareholder value... How could you, man?

How am I supposed to tell my kids about his when they are back from the character building camp I sent them to where they were hunting lesser human beings for sport in an eastern European country I won't name? This is really going to crush their big, delicate hearts...

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Boy the new and old media are having a thesaurus day with the word "killed".

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago

How could Brian do this to the shareholders?

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago

Too bad they will make damn sure this doesn't hurt the shareholders but the people themselves.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

Health care insurance should be handled by governments, or alternatively by law by non profit foundations

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (12 children)

Some would argue that should be the case for all companies.

Imagine how much better for profit companies would function if they didn't have investors skimming off their profits.

For profit companies should be illegal.

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[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

If Luigi has shorted the company with some leverage, he might now be incredibly wealthy

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Pumping bullets into executives is my fav way to pump & dump.

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[–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 32 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

are you saying in the USA they organize their health care around the stock market?

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 29 points 2 weeks ago

It worked! This is a valid tactic.

[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

fucking lol. someone get the new ceo.

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[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Is anyone else getting United Healthcare ads in their Gmail promotions tab? Seemed a little tone deaf.

Edit A word.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

I stepped away from that creepy shit when I noticed just how awful Google (search) and Gmail have become, a complete contrast to how it was originally. Now it's Fastmail and Duckduckgo, and everything is so much cleaner.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How do we get it even lower?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago

checks fidelity

....naaaaaaah

lower

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Think of the shareholders you monsters! Only they matter! Not the patients. Duh; Businesses pay huge premiums to insure their employees, can’t have that money being used for the good of the people it’s meant to help.

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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, this is only a temporary oscillation and they will soon recover and everyone will forget what happened. The damage must be done to the political structure that allows these companies to exist as they are

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

Fucking A for some fucking A, this will probably sting them more than the death of their last CEO.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm sure premiums won't go up drastically next year.

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