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[–] regul@hexbear.net 122 points 1 year ago (5 children)

internet weirdo invents new irreconcilable political position, demands people yell at them

tale as old as time

[–] SimulatedLiberalism@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I mean, plenty of communists (including here) support Russia’s anti-imperialist goals against NATO. The idea that countries like Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and Syria deserve to be bombed because they are socially conservative is simply ridiculous.

Besides, the idea that progressive and LGBT movements can only happen by aligning with the Western bloc is quite frankly, chauvinist. Look at Cuba - 50 years of isolation from Western imperialism and still able to develope a progressive culture more than anything America and Europe can pretend to be.

If anything, US/NATO imperialism has directly resulted in the oppression and murder of far too many progressive movements across the developing world, more than anything Russia can ever hope to achieve, which led to the rise of conservative governments in those countries in the first place.

This is why Mao stressed so much about identifying the principal contradiction, because without which you will always play into the hands of perpetuating capitalism and imperialism.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

I agree with what you're saying, but the person who posted that is definitely an internet weirdo begging to be yelled at

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[–] aaro@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Many Such Cases!

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

michael-laugh this is perfect. I was scrolling wondering what to even say about this. Glad you nailed it and saved me from whatever i was going to put together

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 103 points 1 year ago (10 children)

The liberals reading this with a what-the-hell expression feel exactly the same way as I do whenever I see lgbt people supporting capitalism.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Okay, hear me out - rainbow imperialism capitalist-woke

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[–] cynetri@midwest.social 88 points 1 year ago (5 children)

this reminds me of a few days ago where i saw a post where someone put their oc with a trans black sun and said "there's like no trans fash art so i made my own" like wow i wonder why

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

walter-shock what do you mean people whose entire political ideology is based on being bigoted reactionary shitheads don't have trans art

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

It exists, but it's all hentai.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Trans Ernst Rohm.

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[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

🇷🇺 versus 🇺🇦 is the modern peak of fash-infighting

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] M68040@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

I could almost admire it if this guy was trying to piss off literally everyone, but i feel this isn't that deliberate

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do rainbow-washing Azov next

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

How long do you think before some lib unironically posts a rainbow black sun?

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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

brainworms

Plain and simple

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You don't have to agree with Russia's domestic policies to be in favor of their victory on the geopolitical stage against NATO. Ain't nothing wrong with the image in the OP. Z

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Then just post a Z instead of putting it on a trans flag when they just made trans care illegal. Just as cringe, or possibly marginally more cringe, as making a trans American flag

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[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

right to exist

This is quite a bit difference than saying "I 100% support the current government of this nation and everything it does" shrug-outta-hecks

The image is cringe as fuck though.

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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago
[–] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

This makes as much sense as the pride/Ukraine flags I've seen some internet idiots bandy 'round (zero).

Both sides in this war are queerphobic states and you aren't gonna be able to reconcile that with queer identity.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

russia-cool and ukkkraine are both transphobic hellholes, along with amerikkka

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a real shame, I wonder what the Soviet Union would be like in relation to the LGBT community if it still existed today. AES countries like Vietnam and Cuba became friendly and supportive towards the lgbtq+ community after the 90s.

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[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Idk seems like this is specifically in the context of the war because of the Z?

I mean so many trans people here also support Stalin, USSR, China, Laos, DPRK, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya etc. in their wars

Only difference between Russia and the other capitalist anti-queer countries is that Russia is the only one not yet flattened into the ground so it feels weird for people influenced by a culture that associates weakness with moral purity, strength with evil, and the underdog being a hero to support Russia in the same way

[–] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

Charitably I'll assume the individual being dunked on has performed their own evaluation of "things" and determined that multi-polar imperialism is still better than US-dominated imperialism, because at least there's not an even more entrenched monopoly over the world.

It's not like a modern neoliberal market hellhole state like Russia is going to liberalize on marginalized communities any time soon. The economic gears only grind harder from here, with the hard stops created by climate change on the horizon, so it's unlikely at least.

We can't ignore history though. The context of modern Russia and other states is our world's history. The one where Western capitalists were unrelenting, reinvesting wealth stolen from revolutionary countries into their destruction. The one where "human rights concerns" were used only to justify sanctions against and invasions of countries already embattled for decades. It's one thing to pressure a nation on these issues, but it's a whole other thing to use people inside those societies to destabilize them and then weaponize capitalist owned press to browbeat those countries for "authoritarian" responses.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

capitalist anti-queer countries

That's all of em, bud.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

US legalized gay marriage tho*

*Don't look at what it's doing to trans people

[–] regul@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

US legalized gay marriage for now

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Libs need to understand, De Jure support is of limited in use if you allow far-right paramilitaries to fester in your population.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Noooo we can't crack down on them what about their freedom of speecherino???

(We'll happily ostracize, jail, and kill communists though)

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Like, flying pride flags are nice and all but I need someone to scatter the Heritage Foundation and Focus on the Family to the four winds

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

It's still cringe on an aesthetic level. If you're going to combine the trans flag and the Z, at least do what they do with the ribbon of St. George like this only with the trans colors instead.

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[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

the modern new deal coalition

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