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any piece of advice is welcome

P.S. Thanks to all the people that have taken their time to help me (and not just me, but others as well). It is much appreciated, and, from what Iβ€˜ve read, the β€žcold turkeyβ€œ method seems the most appealing to me. Iβ€˜ll quit smoking today, on the 7th of November 2024.

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[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I read Allen Carr's book "easy way to quit smoking without willpower" and took a drug called Chantix (prescription drug here in Sweden and my first doctor didn't want to prescribe it because all I needed was willpower according to him). The book helped with the habits, the drug removed the cravings and I've been cigarette free since then. It was my third or fourth attempt, and it was BY FAR the easiest. Ignore everyone telling you to quit cold turkey, to have willpower or whatever else, and get Champix prescribed to you.

[–] mistahbenny@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

might consider that, thank you

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One day at a time. Every time you want a cigarette but don't give in, you have built strength. Use that strength to better resist the next urge. Really internalize that what you are doing is strong and powerful. Each victory accumulates and supports those to come.

[–] mistahbenny@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

thank you ^^

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Two ways.

  1. Get a crutch and pretend you quit.

This can either be vaping, snus, nicotine pouches, the patch, anything.

  1. Cold Turkey

Quitting one morning by just never smoking that day.

That's all I know.

[–] hitwright@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Nothing worked for me until Covid came and I've stopped seeing my friends who smoked. Best of luck on your endeavour!

[–] AEGIS2317@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

my accidental 2 step program: 1: switch to these "heets" and the "iqos" and smoking no normal cigs. 2: when i got sick and wanted to smoke i couldnt stand the taste of these things without vomiting. They basically ruined tobacco for me, i never touched a cigarette after that and i stopped smoking one and a half year ago :)

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 69 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I'm going to tell you what worked for me. There's a very good chance you'll hate it and I will get flak.

Cold Turkey.

You physically stop yourself from purchasing cigarettes and not ask for them in social situations. You make a line in the sand and never cross that point again.

[–] mranachi@aussie.zone 24 points 3 days ago

Cold turkey worked for me. Took me 4 attempts. I wasn't hard on myself for failure, I noted what happened (emotional trauma, stress, alcohol) and prepared myself for the next attempt.

I wanted to quit, so when I relapsed it's not because I wanted to smoke but because those little cancer stick bastards were trying hardest to kill me. But if they were going to be tough, I could be tougher. I found it easier when I could see the cigs as my enemy.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago

Honestly, this is it. You have to want it, and you just have to do it. You'll feel "sick" for a while but you just have to muscle that out.

I know it's easier said than done, but it really is that simple. Just stop.

[–] iamanurd@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago

Same for me. I quit, but I didn’t change the things I did in order to quit. I still went to the same bar with the same friends and hung out with them outside while they smoked. It sucked, but kept getting easier.

The one thing I did do was buy an ozone generator and used it to get rid of the smoke smell in my cars and the house. Everything seemed cleaner.

3 years later, I still always want to smoke. I just don’t.

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[–] hand@lemmy.studio 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I quit by switching to vaping and then working the nicotine level down to nothing and then quitting that. Whatever you decide to do I wish you the best of luck (and stick with it!)

[–] revv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Same here. Fuck the naysayers who say cold turkey or nothing. Do what works for you.

For OP: One caveat to the vape plan is you'll likely need to get a vape that's refillable so you can customize the nicotine level. Juul/vuse/disposables typically only come in one, or at best, 2 nicotine levels, which prevents effective tapering.

Also, don't fall into the trap of vaping places you wouldn't have smoked (e.g. in your house/car). That can increase your nicotine dependency.

Good luck!

[–] mistahbenny@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

thanks you :p

[–] CarterH739@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was a heavy smoker for thirty years. I quit...16 days ago. So I might not be the best to advise you on this as I'm still just getting started myself. I have quit a few times in the past though, and I can tell you what is making this time easier. First, realize that nicotine is not the problem. That's out of your system in a few days, from what I understand. It's the habit that screws it up for you. And I am definitely feeling that. I no longer have that treat to look forward to when I get home. I don't have anything to do when I'm frustrated trying to figure something out at work. I can't go outside and have one to relax and think about things. Some of my best work was accomplished while taking a smoke break. Anyway, the way I dealt with that was to start breaking the habits first. Start small. Here's what I did. First, no smoking in the house. Took some time to get used to that. Next, no smoking in the car. That took a while, because I drive a lot, but eventually I got used to it. Then, no smoking at work. Didn't even bring them with me. The reason for all this was to get myself used to the idea of not smoking during these times, so that when I stopped it wouldn't bother me as much. While I'm at work, I'm used to not smoking at work so it doesn't bother me. Same thing with the driving. So, once I got all that down, I set things up so that I would finish my last pack right before I went to bed on Sunday night. That way I wake up and go right to work. A good head start. So, that's where I am now. And it definitely helped. Nothing will ever kill cravings completely, but for me this made things easier. It still sucks though. A lot. So willpower is still going to be a big factor. I wish you luck. It won't be easy. However, if it helps, I can tell you that even after only two weeks it has made a huge difference in my mood, and drastically reduced my stress levels. Aside from being a constant stimulant, I'm also not in a hurry all the time, just trying to get to that next smoke break. I don't worry about how many I have. Things like that. So, just do it. And stick with it. It's worth it.

[–] mistahbenny@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Itβ€˜s a great story youβ€˜ve shared and an even greater piece of advice youβ€˜ve given. Thank you. And good luck on your non-smoking journey. =)

[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Here's my advice on how to really and actually quit: make the decision to quit, and keep making that decision. Every time you feel yourself thinking "just one more.." remake that decision to quit. This was the only way I was successful. Keep making that decision and keep reminding yourself about your decision. You can do it.

[–] mistahbenny@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

great advice, thank you

[–] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The way I implemented this strategy was to make sure I had a single cigarette and lighter on me at all times. I named the cigarette, which psychologically helped prevent me from smoking it. I stuck that out for a few months until a friend smoked it in desperation. At that point I felt confident I'd quit because I wanted to, not because of random circumstance.

[–] mistahbenny@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

Hmm... Thatβ€˜s an interesting way of quitting smoking. Thanks for sharing.

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[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If you don't have the willpower or don't really want to, you will fail. It's nearly all willpower.

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[–] angelmountain@feddit.nl 8 points 2 days ago

What worked for me was to stop seeing friends that smoked and to go for a run every time I felt like getting a cigarette, instead of getting the cigarette.

[–] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'll tell you the strategy that worked for me last time (quit for ~2 years), and that I'm using this time.

  • Switch to a vape. Lung capacity increases immediately, and you get rid of the bad smell. If you haven't vaped, give yourself some time to get used to the different habit (no cigarette packing ritual anymore etc)
  • Buy a 0 nicotine vape or two, or find a local place you can get them easily. This is your "inside" vape.
  • Buy a refillable vape and get nicotine liquid roughly equivalent to the full-nic vape you switched to from cigarettes. This is your "outside" vape.
  • Start restricting the locations you use the full-nic vape. I work from home, so I don't vape full-nic at my desk, I walk outside to do it. You want to break the absent-minded vaping+work or vaping+tv habit.
  • Step your nicotine intake down over as long a period as you like, but don't ever step it back up. First time I quit, I did it over about a year. That's a little extreme. You could probably do it over a few months.
  • Once you're on 0 nic all the time, either stay with that, or gradually wean yourself off the habit as well. This is much easier without the chemical addiction.

Good luck.

[–] med@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There is no trick. This will require active repragramming from you for months.

I couldn't find a quit method that took the fight out of my addiction. You have to want to quit more than your addiction. That's nice but doesn't mean much.

I found in practice, this equates to action in meeting cravings with determination. Even if you don't really feel it. You're used to feeling anxious/angry/sad/sorry for yourself when you can't have a cigarette. Take back that moment, that feeling. Redefine it. It's a battle you're choosing, and the best thing you can do is practice fighting it.

The plus side is, the battle will change as you fight it. So you won't get bored!

The first two weeks are the hardest.

You already know the first fight, if you've ever had to wait for the shops to open to buy some cigarettes or tobacco. You've just got to raw dog that. It's going to suck, but it will at least suck with purpose.

After about 4 days, I started getting spiky, intense cravings that passed after about 30 mins to an hour. Several times a day.

By week two, I only struggled when I was around smokers, saw it on tv, read about it, had a drink (it's still hard).

There was a resurgence in cravings in month two. I felt I'd earned a puff or two. This is a trap. Notice it, it's a useful trigger to double down on deciding not to smoke

I'm now a year in off of vaping and cigarettes. It's still sometimes hard, but mostly I don't think about it, except to be glad I don't need to go for a smoke. I don't miss things at parties anymore. I don't miss moments with my daughter. Plane rides are way easier.

[–] TVA@thebrainbin.org 14 points 2 days ago

My grandma quit using a program that basically attempted to break your habits.

She did things like:

-if you normally have a smoke break at noon, wait til 12:30. Tomorrow do it at 11:30 instead

-If you normally use a lighter, switch to matches, tomorrow use a lighter.

-On Monday, Wednesday,Friday switch to a different brand of cigarettes ... next week go the opposite days.

-Smoke, but every other drag put a pen in your mouth instead.

-Only allow yourself to smoke half a cigarette and then chew a stick of gum for the rest of the time you would normally smoke

-Alternate smoke breaks between smoking and chewing nicotine gum or using the patch (I don't think she used the patch so I'm guessing on that one).

And just a lot of things like that that didn't specifically stop you from smoking, but attempted to stop it being a mindless thing that you just do on reflex without much thought and made it so before lighting up she'd have to think about what the current rules are ... at a certain point, the habit has been broken and you don't seek it... it worked great for her. Was a 6 month or so process and then she never went back once she finished her last pack.

There was a whole program around it with those types of rules and things you'd do and time restrictions on certain days and stuff ... sorry, she passed a few years back and I can't ask her the name of the program.

Good luck! Just remember that even if you lapse, any length of time that you're able to smoke less or stop smoking all improve your overall health! Even if you have a setback, any time that you stop is still a win!

[–] don@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

I switched to vaping, then gradually lowered the nicotine levels in my juice over time until I was vaping 0 nic for two months. Then I realized I no longer needed it, and stopped vaping altogether, quitting nicotine for good. This was back when you could get high quality juice sent to you in the mail, though, which is no longer possible, IIRC.

Obligatory TBD Liquids and Blue Dot Vapors, absolute GOAT.

[–] RedC@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The patches are good options in my opinion but ultimately I just needed to drop nicotine all together and have the willpower to say no.

Edit: the best piece of advice I can give is you have to be deadly serious about not smoking, anything less than full commitment is a failed attempt.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I switched to a vape and progressively got lower nicotine amounts until I was at 0 and then stopping was easy.

Yes. This worked for me as well. Smoked a pack or more a day for 14 years, within a year I just put the vape down. 10 year anniversary of last cig coming up!

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[–] shatteredsword@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Too many helpful comments here. My advice? Just lock in, bro πŸ—Ώ

[–] mistahbenny@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

(based)Β²

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Getting healthy is a personal journey. What works for some will not work for others. I hope you find your way.

As for how I quit tobacco cold turkey:

Every day, I would delay the first cigarette as long as I could. There was no limits to my smoking. There was no rules. Just me doing my best. No putting myself down for sparking one up, no goals to disappoint myself by missing.

Slowly over the course of months I got later and later in the day on average. Till one day I forgot to have one. Did I have a smoke the next day? You bet I did.

But eventually I made it a couple days. Then once I got past a couple days I tried to push for a week. Once you get past two weeks the cravings really dropped. It eventually become a "when I drink" thing. And then I abstained from alcohol to help that along.

I still drink, but I don't smoke (tobacco). It's been years since I actively smoked, although two years ago I did slip up when i was drunk tubing down a river and bummed like 5 cig from a friend who had a couple packs. It was a really good day. Next day, I didn't want to keep smoking. I felt really strong to be able to smoke some cigs and just drop it. Haven't smoked (tobacco) since then.

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not the answer you want, but for me, I quit cold turkey after smoking a pack a day for 15 years.

The thing that helped is that I wasn't being forced to quit for health or social reasons. I simply realized that all smoking a cigarette was doing was making me not want to smoke another cigarette for 30 minutes. I felt I had no more desire to continue the trend.

The first week sucked. I ended up rolling loose-leaf paper into the cylindrical shape of a cigarette, putting Scotch tape on one end, and poking holes into it so that dragging on it felt like dragging on a cigarette. That actually got me through week 2.

After that, the pull to smoke was far, far weaker. It's weird. It ends up coming in waves. You're fine, you're fine, then you get an overwhelming urge to light up. The need lasts for about 30 seconds and goes away quickly. Over time, the frequency between those cravings gets longer, and the cravings get smaller. At some point, I just didn't feel like smoking at all anymore.

But yeah, the first few weeks are not great.

Best of luck!

Edit: my main advice here is that if you don't feel like you really want to quit, you're going to have a much harder time. If your plan is to taper down, it may be torture. If you're plan is "I'll only show myself this one" every so often, it's going to be a long, drawn out losing process.

[–] menemen@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You have to want to stop. I smoked 13 years, stopped several times, but the final real stopping was not that hard.

What also worked quite well for me as a crutch were nicotine free cigarettes. I decided I'd smoke as many of those as I wanted. Started with 20 at the first day and it slowly reduced by itself over time, till at one point o completly stopped without even realizing it.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Say what. I feel like I'm addicted to the feeling of smoke being inhaled. Vapes reck me and I can't stop coughing.

What are these things you speak of

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[–] mub@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

Speaking from my own experience here is my method.

  1. Start by accepting that you will suffer, but think of the suffering like having a bad cold or the flu. You'll hate it but it will pass.

If you are quite a light smoker (handful per day) I would just quit and ride it out. If things get really bad allow yourself 1 but no more. You'll be surprised how quickly the worst cravings go away after a week.

If you're a heavy smoker take more of a run up to it, as follows.

Put off the first smoke of the day for as long as you can. E.g. if you usually smoke as soon as you get up then hold off until after breakfast. Next Day try for just before lunch, and so on over a week or so. Try to also put a gap between eating and smoking. Once you are down to a few a day then do the cold turkey thing.

The trick is actually not buying more cigarettes. If you have them till probably smoke them. But if not, that barrier helps.

I smoked from about 19yo until I was in my early thirties (about 1 pack per day). I also spent the nights smoking a lot of spliffs as well (that's weed with rolling tobacco). Now I only smoke Weed when I go down to see my friends which is like twice a year. I bring back enough tobacco to make 3 or 4 small roll ups which gets me through the come down over the following week. Then it is done.

Quitting the first time is fuck hard but the cravings pass. Now I find it quite easy because I'm used to doing it.

Good luck. You can do it.

[–] tarmarbar@startrek.website 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I quit overnight by accident. Got high on shrooms, tried to smoke, was disgusting, friend told me it's normal when high on shrooms and people use them to stop smoking. Sounded fun, stopped smoking.

[–] mistahbenny@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

haha, great

[–] cone_zombie@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

"Been on shrooms ever since"

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

You just don't smoke another one

That's how I quit anyway, no last smoke, no just this pack i already bought, just quit right now.

First time it lasted 6 months, the second time it's listed about 15 years

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[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] mistahbenny@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

bvahahahahajaahdas

[–] Baguette@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

I dont have advice but best of luck with it!

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

IRL social network is a major factor.

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