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[–] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 74 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I agree if they mean it in the Elon "let's heckin colonize Mars and build an epic bitcoin utopia" sense, but I don't see the issue in wanting to explore space out of a sense of curiosity and wonder.

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 38 points 2 days ago

More often than not, I think you might end up with the first type of dude on your date these days. kbity-how

[–] BashfulBob@hexbear.net 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

William Shattner went to space and it just made him sad.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

William Shatner wanted to say something about that but then lord-bezos-amused sprayed him with a popped champagne bottle because all he got out of the experience was a reinforcing of his ghoulish intentions.

[–] iie@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

"Wow, that's the planet we own. And none of those people get to go up here like I do. This rules!"

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

stalin-spoon because your bowls need gravity to work on their own

[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well i won't tolerate such disrespect of a hero of humanity and champion of socialism yuri so I don't think me and Ms Rodrigo would be a good fit. Just canceled my upcoming date with her.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yuri Gagarin was a hero of the people, not an affluent aspiring space tourist.

Compare the Nolanbrained manfest destiny brainworms of typical space techbros to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjp1nrdfs0g

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[–] newmou@hexbear.net 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's crazy some people are THAT obsessed with the guy they equate him with the entire space industry.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The space industry is basically filled with ElMos;

lord-bezos-amused, the space walk billionaire guy that owns a defense company that specializes in airstrikes, virgin galactic virgin-Cola guy.

You can bring up NASA all you want, it doesn't change the fact that they're (sadly) a minority in an industry that is being overtaken by techbros with no actual scientific education. They just throw money at it and get starving professors and graduates to do the actual work.

[–] FunkYankkkees@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the billionaires are the minority considering there is the CNSA, Roscosmos, ESA, and the ISRO
Focusing purely on NASA is very USAmerica centric

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's the only argument I hear whenever it's brought up online.

I agree with government space agencies, I hate the space industry however. Unfortunately the future is going to be the global encroachment of these private companies into the public sector. Similar to what has happened to NASA.

I really only see China pushing back against this.

How DARE you!

[–] this_dude_eating_beans@hexbear.net 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pretty good litmus test tbh. Anything more than "I guess it'd be cool to see the earth from orbit but that's about it" usually turns into this weird space eugenics type shit.

Unless your answer is "it'd be cool to live in that anarchist space station/meteor wreckage thing from that one episode of cowboy bebop where they meet that chess master" then going to space is cool

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 40 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There's two types of Space Guys

The ones that want to be an officer aboard some space navy warship fighting against aliens and doing space eugenics and colonizer shit

Or the ones who see things like Firefly and The Expanse and just wanna chill doing cool outlaw labour shit in space

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or the ones who see things like Firefly and The Expanse and just wanna chill doing cool outlaw labour shit in space

obama-spike see-you-space-cowboy

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago

There's also a lot of math and science nerds that want to infodump about cycler orbits and play a lot of kerbal space program

[–] peppersky@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

those things are very much not as different as you'd like to think

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 39 points 2 days ago

"Me born off planet catching strays" vegeta-stare Though I mean.... I am full of myself

[–] crispy_lol@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is good to know, I have a date with her later

Uh, Olivia Rodrigo is only 21 and the HexBear age of consent is 32 volcel-judge

[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Imagining a guy who doesn’t want to colonize space because there’s no aliens to genocide

[–] BashfulBob@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

Go the Exo-Squad route. Colonize Mars and genetically engineer a race of superhumans to survive the harsh conditions. Then become terrified of your Mars-Engineered Children, reclassify them as a hostile alien species, and spend the next five years doing interstellar pogroms in cool mechs.

[–] CrispyFern@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago

Damn, that's the one and only reason I wont date Olivia rodrigo biaoqing-copium

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago

Char Aznable, holding frustration in angery : Well, it's not like I'd be interested in someone whose soul is held down by Earth's gravity anyways.

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago

Yuri Gagarin was handsome enough, IMO

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Earth from orbit is supposed to be one of the most beautiful things a person can experience, who wouldn't want to do that

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Earth from orbit is supposed to be one of the most beautiful things a person can experience

For most with a functioning sense of awe and wonder, that is true, but then some come back not only not changed, but worse. lord-bezos-amused

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

Fuck that guy fr

[–] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago

how about olivia ridriGO to the POLLS cedar-rapids

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago
[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It does often signal a bit of "the problems on Earth don't matter and there's nothing and no one there that I care about" selfishness and a whole lot of juvenile escapism on top of that, and that's ick for a lot of potential dates.

I know that astronauts used to be very attractive to potential dates, but actual astronauts aren't exactly a big part of the contemporary computer touching aspiring space tourist dating pool now.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It does often signal a bit of "the problems on Earth don't matter and there's nothing and no one there that I care about" selfishness and a whole lot of juvenile escapism on top of that

That's my unironic take as well.

I think it's not ethical under capitalism to be throwing this much money into space while people's basic needs aren't met.

It would probably take a luxury space gay communism type thing for me to visit other planets, because even if a socialist society where people's needs are met hypothetically would want me to assist their space program, my skill set would very likely be more useful here on Earth.

Even to go to orbit, it would take a fairly advanced socialist society perhaps where orbital flight is a viable means of planetary transportation to the general public to be ethical IMHO

Addendum: This isn't to say that space programs themselves are 100% unethical even under capitalism — they've definitely helped life on Earth so far by necessity of new materials that withstand extreme conditions. Elon's bazinga tourism is 100% unethical though.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

There's some space treat defending in this thread that assumes criticisms of billionaire space tourism and futurology grifts are a blanket condemnation of scientific inquiry. That's both bullshit and projection, considering that such treat defenders made the blanket association first here as if it's impossible to separate billionaire space tourists and their whims from scientific inquiry.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago

This is an excellent litmus test, I'm going to steal it.

Any regular person that cares about space (I'm excluding actual scientists) has 75% chance of being a bazinga brain.

Another litmus test: do you think cryptocurrency will replace regular money?

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Fartster@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

I want to go to space but only astral projection as a ball of energy or taken on board by a benevolent and highly spiritually advanced race of squid, a second date please miss Rodrigo.

[–] afters@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

i would rather shrink to a molecular level. now THAT sounds fun

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago
[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

The only non-bazinga space person i know, who is also a (sort of) public figure is Dr. Fatima, and she left academia because it was full of bazinga astrophysicists: https://youtu.be/R7hK5_Rj--8

So yeah, good call Ms. Rodrigo. I like playing KSP and astrophysics is fun, but the beauty in this earth is enough to last several lifetimes, so if given a choice, I'd rather share kinship with what's around here than what's out there.

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[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

It would be dope to hike up a mountain on the moon/Mars. Unfortunately I can't redirect the federal budget to specifically benefit me

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