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Denmark arrests teenager for "praising" "terror attack" against Israel - The "praise" in question? This facebook comment "Yaaaaas😍 đŸ‡”đŸ‡ž" (www.dr.dk)
submitted 5 days ago by REgon@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net
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A 16-year-old girl has been sentenced to 30 days of conditional imprisonment for praising Hamas's attacks on Israel, according to Ritzau.

Under an article titled "Live: Israel attacked with missiles" on Ekstra Bladet's Facebook page, the girl wrote: "Yass," followed by a heart-eye emoji and the Palestinian flag.

The girl, who has family in the conflict-affected area, stated in Aalborg court that she had not read the article.

"I just wanted to show support for Palestine—meaning the civilians. I didn't know Hamas was behind it," she said in court.

She is considering whether to appeal the case to the high court.

  1. muh freeze-peach
  2. This is the kinda shit I point to when I wanna talk about journalists fetishization of "being objective" makes them blind to their own biases, the biases of their sources and the fact they are merely propagandists.
  3. This is the kinda shit I point to when I talk about propaganda in the west
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[–] REgon@hexbear.net 47 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I've seen people write so much heinous shit about palestinians, but god forbid you lightly approve of a military action against Israel. This makes me feel like I'm insane. I still have to hear people talk about "nuance" how the fuck can they be so blind to how we're getting forcefed the most obvious propaganda in the world? screm-a

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago

Openly praising state sponsored terrorist attacks on major news media stations: I sleep

Comment on Facebook post: I WAKE

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago

Site literally played a big part in a genocide too

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

“Supporting” Hamas / Al-Qassam Brigades (or Hezbollah, or the PFLP, etc) is functionally meaningless in Europe and North America. You can’t send them weapons or money (god I wish). You can’t go there and fight with them. You can’t send them food. Your words of “support” can’t actually do anything (saying this as someone who is 110% supportive of those groups mentioned above). We have no way of affecting the outcome. Saying you support Hamas right now is like saying you support the Jacobites at Culloden. It doesn’t actually do anything.

The fact that governments are taking actions like this shows they really do see not just the words but the thoughts and sentiments of the people (especially young people, not because they are young but because of their general opinions) as a threat. Controlling the narrative is critical. It used to be they could control the news media easily, but social media is so much harder for them to keep a lid on. Of course they’re mostly successful at it, but even if they do have functional control over Facebook, Twitter et al it’s not as tight as the control they have over traditional media. Actions like the one here are how they plan on controlling the narrative, along with banning platforms that don’t hand over censorship control to western governments.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

“Supporting” Hamas / Al-Qassam Brigades (or Hezbollah, or the PFLP, etc) is functionally meaningless in Europe and North America. You can’t send them weapons or money )god I wish). You can’t go there and fight with them. You can’t send them food. Your words of “support” can’t actually do anything (saying this as someone who is 110% supportive of those groups mentioned above). We have no way of affecting the outcome. Saying you support Hamas right now is like saying you support the Jacobites at Culloden. It doesn’t actually do anything.

I totally agree. I just meant support in the lib way where they think typing "slava ukraini" does anything. Lib support you know.

Edit: Sorry thought your comment was in response to this

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

Right I mean, I am a westerner who “supports” Hamas. I put an Al-Qassam Brigades wallpaper on my computer. Recognizing that our support can’t do anything isn’t a criticism, it’s just a factual statement of the situation we are in at the moment. I think the fact that some governments are coming down hard on this “support” shows how nervous they are about these sentiments “breaching containment”.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Where are all those free speech warriors from 2016 who were defending the alt-rights hateful shit?

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 24 points 4 days ago

Well it's nuanced, you see

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

i do not recognize the rogue monarchichal regime of the northwestern afroeurasian peninsula allegedly called "denmark"

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Balkanization map of China but it's of Denmark and incredibly niche and deranged. Somehow England ends up controlling parts due to how the map maker things the Danelaw should have gone or something. Another part is now held in joint custody by the balkans due to the 30 years war

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

eric-andre im going to give the whole fucking thing to the irish republic, and if they fail to kill the king i'll do it myself

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

"But you see, in le ebil SeeSeePee and Pootin's RuZZia, they arrest you for thoughtcrimes. Unlike here in the enlightened west, Pootin will arrest you if you protest in Red Sqaure, unlike in DC smuglord "

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

Ah, butt yuo see, ham ass are terrorists, unlike the wholesome keanu chungus East Turkestan Islamic Movement.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago (3 children)

listen i am all for praising missile attacks on israel but like

"I just wanted to show support for Palestine—meaning the civilians. I didn't know Hamas was behind it," she said in court.

did she think the civilians fired the missiles or

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 61 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think she doesn't want to go to jail

[–] roux@hexbear.net 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah that sounds like she was lawyered.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

There's this game going on where people condemn hamas but celebrate palestinian resistance while ignoring that almost all of that is hamas. They're separating the two in their head in order to hold both ideas simultaneously so they're not "bad" for supporting hamas because everyone says that's a bad thing.

This comes from a lack of people being willing to accept imperfect resistance, and also the exceptional power of the western media propaganda.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 34 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

this is a 16-year-old girl so i will excuse the liberalism

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah fair but this isn't unique to the young ones, in fact I would argue that the younger people often have better views on the realities of resistance than many of the older

[–] The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net 28 points 4 days ago

I mean, she's also in a current legal battle for her future right now. I dunno about y'all but I'd sing whatever song my lawyer told me to. I don't feel as though me standing by my beliefs in this situation would particularly benefit anyone.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago

Every lib loves to fellate themselves talking about "nuance" which is just a long winded way of saying "status quo good"

Real nuance is supporting Hamas. Real nuance is supporting Iran and Russia in their war agianst the US. The concept of critical support would give libs an aneurism.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

Saying the correct line that will be praised by internet leftists > her not going to fucking jail.

[–] replaceable@hexbear.net 27 points 5 days ago

I think she is just saying anything to not appear "guilty"

[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

Meanwhile Israeli strikes on innocent Palestinians are just “collateral damage”, so cheering those on is perfectly legal.

Western propaganda is so tiresome once you see through it.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

eu-cool: i-am-adolf-hitler

Edit: Corrected flag from German flag, who also is doing similar stuff

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

wrong flag, but i agree

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

She just wanted to make sure we include Schleswig-Holstein in the roast as rightful Danish clay ofc ofc.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

Denmark to the Eider any day now I'm sure

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is the rightful map of germany-cool and as long as we don't have global communism, I insist on it being this Balkanized:

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I truly urge everyone to abandon fedpostingbook / instagram / meta. To boycott all of ZuckIsBorg's toys / traps for your own good.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago

But I flirt with people over instagram!

[–] NewOldGuard@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago

I just don’t expose anything to those platforms that isn’t already public or that could come back to bite me if it were. They are garbage platforms for political discussion, I don’t even try. They’re just ways to know what my friends and family are up to and their major life events

That said if you have no connection to these platforms already or can use an alternative please do. And don’t rely on them to protect any aspect of your privacy or security, sandbox them and the information they get because they will exploit you or leak ur shit

[–] bananon@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

gamer-gulag

Me getting exiled to the Faroe Islands after committing the greatest of sins (building a Palestine flag out of LEGO)

[–] KillAllHippies@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

emoji-related crimes

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago

Damn, E*ros are fucking cooked