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A 16-year-old girl has been sentenced to 30 days of conditional imprisonment for praising Hamas's attacks on Israel, according to Ritzau.

Under an article titled "Live: Israel attacked with missiles" on Ekstra Bladet's Facebook page, the girl wrote: "Yass," followed by a heart-eye emoji and the Palestinian flag.

The girl, who has family in the conflict-affected area, stated in Aalborg court that she had not read the article.

"I just wanted to show support for Palestine—meaning the civilians. I didn't know Hamas was behind it," she said in court.

She is considering whether to appeal the case to the high court.

  1. muh freeze-peach
  2. This is the kinda shit I point to when I wanna talk about journalists fetishization of "being objective" makes them blind to their own biases, the biases of their sources and the fact they are merely propagandists.
  3. This is the kinda shit I point to when I talk about propaganda in the west
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[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

“Supporting” Hamas / Al-Qassam Brigades (or Hezbollah, or the PFLP, etc) is functionally meaningless in Europe and North America. You can’t send them weapons or money (god I wish). You can’t go there and fight with them. You can’t send them food. Your words of “support” can’t actually do anything (saying this as someone who is 110% supportive of those groups mentioned above). We have no way of affecting the outcome. Saying you support Hamas right now is like saying you support the Jacobites at Culloden. It doesn’t actually do anything.

The fact that governments are taking actions like this shows they really do see not just the words but the thoughts and sentiments of the people (especially young people, not because they are young but because of their general opinions) as a threat. Controlling the narrative is critical. It used to be they could control the news media easily, but social media is so much harder for them to keep a lid on. Of course they’re mostly successful at it, but even if they do have functional control over Facebook, Twitter et al it’s not as tight as the control they have over traditional media. Actions like the one here are how they plan on controlling the narrative, along with banning platforms that don’t hand over censorship control to western governments.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

“Supporting” Hamas / Al-Qassam Brigades (or Hezbollah, or the PFLP, etc) is functionally meaningless in Europe and North America. You can’t send them weapons or money )god I wish). You can’t go there and fight with them. You can’t send them food. Your words of “support” can’t actually do anything (saying this as someone who is 110% supportive of those groups mentioned above). We have no way of affecting the outcome. Saying you support Hamas right now is like saying you support the Jacobites at Culloden. It doesn’t actually do anything.

I totally agree. I just meant support in the lib way where they think typing "slava ukraini" does anything. Lib support you know.

Edit: Sorry thought your comment was in response to this

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

Right I mean, I am a westerner who “supports” Hamas. I put an Al-Qassam Brigades wallpaper on my computer. Recognizing that our support can’t do anything isn’t a criticism, it’s just a factual statement of the situation we are in at the moment. I think the fact that some governments are coming down hard on this “support” shows how nervous they are about these sentiments “breaching containment”.