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The ballot drop boxes in Washington and Oregon both have fire suppression systems that are designed to activate when the temperature inside reaches a certain point, coating ballots inside with a fire-suppressing powder.

For unknown reasons, the system failed to prevent the destruction of hundreds of ballots in Vancouver, just across the Columbia River from Portland.

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 85 points 1 week ago (7 children)

This is the Republican plan to steal the election. When does the civil war start? I give it 6 weeks before the first casualties pile in.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 72 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] knightly@pawb.social 31 points 1 week ago

Are you kidding? Election day is a week away and an election clerk in San Antonio already got punched for telling somebody to take off his MAGA hat. I'm surprised nobody's been shot already.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Assuming they catch the shitbags, I see no need for further violence.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 78 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Courts should fast track this one to make an example of them. Arrest them and sentence them this week.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

No, you want to wish them a complete and fair due process. Keep them behind bars in accordance with the maximum of sentencing guidelines.

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[–] sarcasticsunrise@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I hate that the Orwellian thought of ballot boxes requiring armed guards just entered my brain, because it just did. It goes against everything democracy is supposed to be, but this is where American fascism has led my thoughts to rot

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (12 children)

With a sufficiently not-fucking-around response to the terrorists who did it, betcha won't need guards.

But America is gonna wrist slap nazis and say please.

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 week ago (4 children)

There need to be extraordinary penalties for threatening election workers, intimidating voters, or destroying ballots. How about a minimum 20 year sentence to start?

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

20 years?

In many countries you get the death sentence for treason like this.

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

I'm sorry, have you seen the j6 idiots?

Do you honestly believe they can count to 20 even after taking off their socks?

You can't beat stupid, you can't scare stupid, we need to just make voting one of those things they can't get to easily, ie make the boxes like bank drops, or some other physical means.

Rednecks gonna redneck.

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[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Just an FYI, all of these Ballot/Mail Box fires will be pointed to when trump attempts his second coup when he loses. I cant believe I'm casually talking about a future coup attempt in my country...

This will give a fake appearance of legitimacy to his claims. I'm worried...

[–] resin85@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The full plan is detailed here: https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/little-secret-trump-johnson-election/.

Basically, they just need enough States to withhold submitting valid slates of electors, which are due on Dec 11th. If that doesn't happen, and it lowers the amount of electoral college voters enough so no single candidate has a majority, then the US House gets to decide.

In other words, we're fully reliant on GOP controlled States doing the right thing. We're fucked.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

Oh wonderful, a new anxiety is unlocked.... Though I will say that this wouldn't happen until mid to late December, and we will have election results around Nov 6-8. This is definitely a much harder gambit with over a month of time knowing the result of the election, that is to say, it'll be much more clearly a coup than if it happened during election day. Lets just hope this is a landslide for Harris, and the chance of this being a viable option for trump being even lower.

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[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

This is terrorism.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What are these things doing outside? I don't get that. Put them inside the courthouse, post office, fire station, a million other places they'd be safe from arson.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

The problem lies in that people need to access them outside working hours due to their own work schedules, which is ultimately the point of these things. Granted, a fire station, ~~police station~~, or even a hospital lobby would be better than outside.

Edit: ok, maybe not a police station, but y'all get my point

[–] Skydancer@pawb.social 25 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Police station would be a terrible choice. People who aren't able to vote on election day skew poor, black, brown, and/or immigrant - exactly the groups who would be (rightly) afraid of entering a police station.

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Little bit concerned about a police station, both because people might feel intimidated, and votes could get 'lost'.

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[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Should not have divulged that, now they're gonna go in with Rit dye and bleach and shit

[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That wrote "free gaza" on the incendiary devices and drives a Volvo? I mean... maybe, I guess.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Where did you see that info? The article is horrible, but I am pretty sure it never said that.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Waiting for the car's MAGA owner to be arrested and prosecuted. Probably expecting an eventual pardon from Bonespurs. Good luck wit dat.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I hope that vehicle ends up in a trash compactor with the occupant inside

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hope they catch the guy alive and we prosecute the asshole and make a public example of this guy who is most likely Republican.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I would bet up to $1k that this guy is Republican, but I don't actually care what party they belong to. Make an example of them.

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[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I was actually surprised that more ballot boxes weren't being firebombed; I didn't know they had fire suppression systems and am glad to hear it (and also slightly shocked that they're necessary; chalk another point on the board for we've failed as a society and as a species).

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[–] HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ah yes wiping out hundreds of democrat (and some non Democrat) votes in two of the bluest cities in the north west will surely have an impact on the election.

[–] doc@fedia.io 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Washington district that includes Vancouver has one of the most contested House races in the country this year.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Glusencamp-Perez ran on opposing Biden and working with Republicans.

Kent ran on opposing Perez for being a Democrat.

Absolutely insane.

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[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

One article I read said that the representative race was much closer. It might not affect the president, but could affect other positions.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

fire suppression systems that are designed to activate when the temperature inside reaches a certain point

For unknown reasons, the system failed to prevent the destruction of hundreds of ballots

I don't think it's an "unknown" reason; the system requires a fire to have already been lit in order to activate. It's fire a suppression system, not fire prevention.

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