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[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 111 points 1 week ago (7 children)

i just woke up from the explosions what the hell

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 70 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago

thanks hopefully israel will fall and we don't have to worry about being bombed anymore.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] REgon@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
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[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 67 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Does anyone here have a guess as to why Israel is trying to solo the entire ~~Arab world~~ Middle East in the middle of an ongoing colonial uprising?

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can think of two possibilities:

  1. They're copying Nixon's "Madman Theory", where by being violent and unpredictable they can extract greater concessions from their opponents. This is your "De-Escalation through Escalation" they were talking about a while ago.
  2. Israel now views this as an existential conflict and is trying to disable their opponents while they still have enough munitions to do so.
[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

I hope they lose

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 60 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Iran isnt in the arab world

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The fuck, how did I just learn this today

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 56 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I have used this example before: imagine you have a revolver with six bullets - they will become obsolete and unable to deal any damage to your enemy in 10 years.

While you only have a 10% chance of killing your enemies right now, it will be 1% in 10 years time.

What will you do?

Do you use those bullets now hoping to deal at least some lasting damage to your enemies, or do you hoard them until nobody is afraid of them anymore?

For Zionists, this will be the end of their ideology, the end of their ethnostate project. What becomes of Zionism when it comes to that? It makes sense they have to deal damage now than later.

(The bullets are US/Israeli air superiority, and what will make it obsolete are modern Russian air defense systems that once supplied to Iran, will end Western air supremacy altogether in the Middle East)

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[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 47 points 1 week ago

lebensraum speedrun any%

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago

They may see with the US risking getting into a war with Russia and wanting a war with China that their own time to pull the US into a conflict to settle the region's problems in their favor using the might of the US is quickly drawing to a close and will likely not exist in a few years so why let a crisis go to waste when they can try and get the US to take out Iran and Hezbollah for them which would allow greater "isreal" to become a reality. It's an expansionist mindset too. Also fascists gonna fascist.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago

Israel doesn't solo anything. They are a hand of the US wearing a blue and white flag

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The only way towards de-escalation is coming to the negotiating table with Hamas. Negotiating with Hamas sets a bad precedent and, in the long term, compromise's the entity's ability to keep Palestine down. Their economy is already severely compromised as it is, so I think that going out with some kind of last hurrah and trying to accomplish all their goals at once is probably more appealing than having to back down, recover, and attempt to do it all again a decade from now.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

because the US wants this -- gotta get WW3 nice and hot without having the blame

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[–] Owl@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

The realpolitik ghoul reason would be that they're trying to start a big enough war that the only way the US can secure its interests in the region is to get directly involved, saving Israel from the consequences of its other aggressions.

But I don't think it's actually realpolitik ghouls in charge, I think they've just got nazis at the helm, and nazis think that all problems can be solved by attacking the weak, and all people are weaker than them.

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 58 points 1 week ago

Here we go. Now did they have an ounce of sense and just pound the desert and a few unimportant places and claim otherwise in their propaganda so Iran has an out not to retaliate in kind? Or more likely did these deranged zionists hit important things and Iran has to hit back even harder and kill US troop scum manning their air defenses as well? At which point the US can either leave with its tail between its legs like Reagan did Lebanon in the 80s or escalate in some way including potentially war.

I hope the people of Iran remain safe regardless of outcome. I hope the colonizers of the zionist occupation continue to feel and be very unsafe as they should be until they stop their genocide and dismantle their apartheid regime.

I just want these fucking people to be able to live their lives. These genocidal freaks need their capacity for violence wrested from them because they are making hell on Earth by hurting vulnerable people - especially children.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Were they actual military targets or just apartment buildings and hospitals again?

[–] TheFinalCapitalist@hexbear.net 44 points 1 week ago

you forget that those hospitals are hamasbollah

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

apparently they struck "across the city of Tehran" according to US state tv news

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

fuck me i already bought a fifth of gin planning on drinking tonight. god damn israel and the united states

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

I'm trying to save some of my whisky for when Biden croaks in a month.

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

I just got some Havana Club I'll join you

[–] FugaziArchivist@hexbear.net 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

timed with Game 1 of World Series?

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 1 week ago

Not how I was expecting to get reminded the world series started

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[–] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago
[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fuck

I knew I shouldn't have wished to live in interesting times

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

It sort of bothers me how wishing works.

"I want something to be a little better."

Your suffering shall be immense

Like okay? Fuck you, asshole genie.

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[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago
[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So like, this is the end of Israel yeah? I just don't see how the Israeli state can continue

[–] miz@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

British Braaaaapcasting Corporation and all they do is broadcast fart noises

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[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

So good bye Gulf state/American oil refineries and hello potential oil crisis 2.0? or would this be an exaggeration?

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It seems like it's a bit early to tell. Iran doesn't want to escalate, if these attacks are limited they might not up the ante, like last time.

[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

presstv is playing this attack down, saying limited damage and their air defence did their jobs.

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[–] BlackDragon@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

i was here when israel decided to go out guns blazing

[–] Quaxamilliom@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago

It would have been less humiliating for the zionist regime to have just apologized and did nothing.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

Seems like they did essentially 0 damage, thankfully for the people of Tehran. Apparently they might have hit an essentially empty rev guard training base lol.

[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

Very, very bad.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

Here we go again doggirl-sweat

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

CLIP from Terhan you can see flares from Air defense go up. Explosions in the air and hear bunch of pops.

Not going to know the extent of this for a bit and theres word a lot of misinfo going around, we're in the fog right now.

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[–] RION@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago
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