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[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 47 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I’m sorry but uh, for what? The concept of collectible battle monsters?

Nintendo about to start suing plumbing companies for stealing the concept of Mario

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

To be fair I saw one "Pal" that just straight up used Zoruas model.

Nintendo never cared about stuff like Digimon or Cassette Beasts, so I'm guessing the problem is actual models made by Nintendo were used. Buuuuut this is Nintendo and they sent people cease and desists over Pokemon fan games FFS, so who the hell knows.

I mean, Palwords developers are skeezy, but on the other hand so is Nintendo, also fuck copyright.

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago

Since it's a patent lawsuit they're going after game mechanics rather than character designs, but we don't know which mechanics yet

[–] Anvil_Lavigne@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Digimon

i get that they're commonly seen as rivals outside of japan (because saban localised the anime w/ the very intention of challenging pokemon, instead of leveraging the obvious differences), but like, if nintendo had gone after digimon, they'd be going after literally anything featuring monsters. the original 1997 iteration of digital monster was "tamagotchi for boys," which is where battling & evolution comes in comrade-raccoon

obv the similar names might seem awfully sus, but as i understand, the abbreviating of names like that is fairly common in japan. like, if we knew the franchises as pocket monster & digital monster, there would still be a similarity there, but it would seem less egregious ig.

thank u for suffering my autism

[–] AndJusticeForAll@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (5 children)

We should make this a Digimon fan site. Sick of the PokePosuers on here.

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Kicking myself for not making my account "ComradeWizardmon".

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

There is a small but dedicated cluster of Digidestined

[–] AndJusticeForAll@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

Call it LTV-Pets.ru

[–] Anvil_Lavigne@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

masaru says "punch gods, no masters" meow-anarchist

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

There is a some digiposting in the mega

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

They would have had a hell of a time bringing down these juggernauts

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

Honestly Nintendo has had some big wins lately getting people to fold rather than fight in court even when the fight should be winnable. Maybe they're just hoping that happens here too. Get these guys all tied up in court even if Nintendo knows they won't win just to keep the Palworld devs occupied with the court fight rather than making their game

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

Look again. There were no model rips.

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They didn't specify which patents were being infringed upon. It'll be interesting to see how this goes. It's in Japan so I assume Nintendo's got this in the bag

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

According to a Mastodon post, the speculation is it’s over “patents such as one for throwing and using Poké Balls in a 3D space (JP,2023-092953,A); and one for automatically switching between ride Pokémon as a player transitions between different terrain, such as between air and the ground (JP,2023-092954,A)."

IANAL, certainly not in Japanese patent law, but the first one sounds stronger to me, but still not bulletproof.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 51 points 1 month ago (3 children)

God patents for game mechanics are so fucking stupid and should be thrown out entirely

[–] huf@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the idea of patents were sold to us with this romantic tale of the lone inventor being able to live off his genius.

none of that is real. patents are absurd and should be abolished, just like copyright (sold to us with a similar fairytale).

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

The fundamental flaw with patents is being transferrable and the property model of them. Within the context of the current political economy, it would make more sense if someone used another’s patent commercially, the patent holder just gets a tax credit equal to some small percentage of the sales. And sweet Jesus the entire concept of being able to buy and sell patent rights is fucked up.🔝

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

AFAIK game mechanics in the US can't be patented, especially board games. It's one of the few things American copyright law isn't fucking stupid about.

[–] mamotromico@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Oh boy I hope you never read about Konami and DDR patents/lawsuits

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Patents are so fucking stupid loo

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

Nintendo assassinates the pope

[–] KoboldKomrade@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Joke lawsuit. The only valid response is a fedposting to any lawyer or judge who decides to waste time arbitrating whether or not a soulless husk can own a concept.

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"We refer you to the reply given in the case of Arkell v. Pressdram." is the correct response from palworld here

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

lol nice.

Fuck Nintendo, but this is funny to me because it’s just another cash grab early access game by a pop up game studio. they are about to spend all their profits on litigation and then abandon the game just like the rest of their projects.

[–] goose@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

When Palworld came out, I was surprised that the ever-litigious Nintendo didn't take some sort of legal action. So to all the people on here who thought that was a bad take and called me out, all I have to say now is: you're lovely and I appreciate you

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Nintendo is the Disney of bideo bames, is up to the same kind of skullduggery, and has a similar toxic fandom that'll go to the mat for them.

[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

Having played palworld it is a significantly diffrent product. I don't see specifics in thr article but it is unclear to me what the actual claim could be

[–] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 9 points 1 month ago

Nintendo is being evil again I'm so shocked

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Was Palworld ever anything other than "latest fad"?

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It was one more Steam early access survival crafting game, though it made quite a big splash due to the novelty of having pokey men in it

[–] Starlet@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

If Pocketpair were American, I honestly think they might have a chance. But from what I've heard, Tokyo District Courts aren't likely to rule against Nintendo.