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[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 194 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

Oh wow this meme being used for a good thing. Maybe the darkest timeline is brightening.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 161 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Underestimate Swifties at your peril. Live Nation-Ticketmaster has been a loathed monopoly for years and they screwed up one Taylor Swift sale and there were Congressional hearings and a lawsuit filed by the Department of Justice joined by 30 states’ Attorneys General.

Indeed. I’m delighted that LN/TM is finding out after fucking around so much for so long.

On an unrelated note, props for the usage of the correct plural form 🍻

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[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 103 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This is simultaneously wonderful and depressing.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 107 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If this is what it takes to get the 18-30 year olds to the polls in the right states, idgaf. Just win, baby!

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh absolutely, by any means necessary. Which is why I say it's wonderful.

But it's disheartening that a celeb endorsement can drive such engagement. Might be dating myself here but it always reminds me of "what does Ja Rule think!?!"

[–] ski11erboi@lemm.ee 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd argue this isn't any celebrity though. Say what you will about Taylor and her music but she has successfully marketed herself as a wholesome role model for younger generations who has ran a nearly 20 year career scandal free. To them she represents more than celebrity fame. She's a movement and if she says vote they will vote.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm glad she's a wholesome role model/movement.

I'm glad that she's encouraging folks to vote.

I'm glad she's encouraging folks to vote Dem.

I'm less glad that there are kids whose participation in democracy seems to hinge on a singer. I know that this has always been the case to some extent it just feels increasingly so and kind of sad. Let's not forget that trump's main qualification to get into politics was his celebrity.

My grumpy old man take is our politics are getting dumber and dumber and people registering to vote because their favourite musician told them to, no matter how wholesome or good she is, seems a symptom of that.

For singers who are mostly political, sure, this kind of makes sense (think most of the famous 60s singers, most punk etc) but, to the best of my knowledge/limited listening, Swift's music has seemed pretty non political, which makes it a bit weird to me. (That being said, also what makes it a bit more effective. Rage against the Machine telling folks to vote is preaching to the choir.)

Tl;dr: a good thing has happened, I'm just pining for a better yesteryear that may have never actually existed.

[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

I'm just pining for a better yesteryear that may have never actually existed.

I mean, Neil Young and Joan Baez were encouraging people to vote back in the 60's, so it's been at least 60 years that popular music has been closely involved in youth culture's voting habits

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My first vote might have been because of free coffee at Starbucks for I Voted stickers. In other words, it can always be dumber ;p

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ha, that's pretty good! Thanks for the perspective.

I've voted in every election for which I've been eligible, so I wonder if some of my votes were just to keep the streak alive even if only subconsciously.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I mean, some of them are like that. I've voted every time since, and I maybe my proudest, silliest vote was for Obama in the primary. I was, what, 20, and just really not that into Hillary mostly because she scapegoated video games. Obama ended up being a very good choice, but that reason was definitely immature young adult brain. (Vibe probably mattered, too, now that I think of it).

Honestly, dissing video games was not the best reason to get me to vote against her but like, you know how rare it is for as young person to vote in a primary? Small things like that can matter.

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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Right there with ya. The fact that this is a thing in our society is just... I'll take it, but yikes. Glad she didn't endorse trump I guess.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

how much of a shit did you give about the crusty old white people in government when you were 10-18 yrs old?

[–] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

10-18? I dont think that’s the age group we are discussing here…

[–] 1D10@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

As a punk kid living in the world of Reagan, I cared a lot.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

All but the 18 year olds can't vote.

That being said, I was 16 on 9/11 so my cohort got into politics very quickly. Especially as most of my good friends were into punk.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 57 points 2 months ago
[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 54 points 2 months ago (14 children)

Whatever your opinion of her/Swifties, this is ultimately good news.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Young people never vote. It's pointless to listen to them." - centrists who don't want policy changes.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A big chunk of Swifties are in their 30s at this point

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some people seem to forget that younger generations get older too.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Some people assume that they will become conservative when they hit 30.

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[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] moon@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

The Thor of our universe is also an attractive blonde who has been worshipped by millions of Earthlings

[–] TechSquidTV@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (4 children)

But what exactly were all these people waiting for?... Did they really need Taylor to tell them this? I mean the answer is obviously yes but why?

[–] underthesign@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

An incredible and depressing number of people in the world don't know what to wear, eat, watch, where to go on holiday or who to vote for until a celebrity tells them to do it.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 9 points 2 months ago

We live in a society that does everything in its power to prevent people from empowering ourselves. It's hard to see outside that panopticon, I do not blame the people for their own disenfranchisement.

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Young people who didn't consider voting before probably.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 months ago

A lot of people don't pay attention to politics, and don't realize things like the need to register to vote since their last move, since their name changed when they got married, etc. They just want to shake it out.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Especially from younger people, but not unheard of from older people, is a phrase similar to "I'm not really into politics". People may not realize that they can ignore politics as much as they want, but politics will affect their lives through and through.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

Talor Swift endorsing Kamala.

What the swifties hear: Would you kindly vote for Kamala?

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Noooo don’t vote! Go back to eating your animals in Ohio you trans immigrant convicts!

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