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Linus' thread: (CW: bigotry and racism in the comments) https://social.kernel.org/notice/AWSXomDbvdxKgOxVAm (you need to scroll down, i can't seem to link to the comment in the screenshot)

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[–] eighty@lemmy.one 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can relate to the "how the fuck is being a concerned human being extreme/poltical?" energy in the post hard.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

Hate is mainstream politics now, sadly. So yes, not hating is political as well.

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

That's what "being political" means. Otherwise you'd be apathetic, cynical and not concerned about anything.

[–] flibbertigibbet@feddit.de 19 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Political? For everyone outside of America that's just common sense.

[–] LlamaSutra@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In Canada it’s starting to become “political” since our morons are egged on by the morons down south.

[–] HomoScotian@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's so exhausting, they treat it like a sport, it's not about making anyone's lives better it's all just about their team winning

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[–] caribou@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Politics used to be something people engaged in. Now politics is the core to a lot of people's identities, which means disagreement or debate is perceived as a personal attack and people will embrace a tremendous amount of cognitive dissonance to avoid being wrong.

[–] xyon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

Hello I'm a trans person from the UK here to tell you this is sadly not the case at all.

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[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Linus gives exactly zero fucks about saying exactly what's on his mind. And it's almost always massively based. He's always been great about that, we don't deserve such a great mind.

[–] CrownCrafter@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Remember the time with the anti vaxxer, man was firing with all cylinders

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[–] thatonedude1210@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

This is one of the reasons why I respect him so much.

[–] RenaHersch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Holy shit a based Linus is not what I expected to see today. Makes me prefer Linux even more than I already did.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What would you use for a synonym for based? I keep seeing that used. I always thought it was just some alt-right meme bullshit, but I'm learning I was wrong. I still don't get the use. My mind always thinks "based on what?"

[–] ott@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"Based" is typically used to describe someone who says/does something without caring if they'll be judged for it. Most commonly, it's shorthand for "That's a controversial opinion and you are bold for saying it, but I agree with you." It turns the previous sentence into an adjective, which is a little weird but it makes sense eventually.

So if I had to choose a single word as a synonym, I would say "Bold".

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[–] Plasma@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

FOSS is an active political statement!

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Was just coming here to say that. The entire Ethos of Open Source is basically the people owning the digital means of production. So some people really not grasp that?

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[–] Devgard@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

lol i read gun regulation as pro-gun.

glad to be proven wrong :)

[–] Themightypooper@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

After being disappointed by Steve, Linus lifted my spirits.

[–] xenago@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Linus has always been political and principled, I mean he chose the GPL for a reason! Glad to see him state all of this outright though, it only makes me respect him more.

[–] raccoon@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Hard fisagree. Linux isn't political. Everyone has an opinion, it's obvious Linus would too. But I am pretty happy that his opinion is one I personally agree with. Linux can be uaed by anyone though, and nothing stops far right activists (terrorists) from making a distro, which would still be Linux. There's a heavily religious distro too, but that doesn't make Linux as a whole religious.

[–] raresbears@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does that really make it totally apolitical though?. Like obviously it's not inherently attached to a wide reaching political ideology, but it still is political in the same way that any free software is kind of political.

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[–] josm@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

This is one of the many reasons I look up to this man.

[–] roda@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Woman right to choose, fair enough. Regulated guns, absolutely. The less guns the better. Gay people stuff, I couldn't care less. Check.

The man said it as it should be said.

[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Linus is stellar example of "good is not nice."

He will rake you over the coals because he cares about quality and expects better from everyone.

[–] guyman@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good can be nice. This is just him personally and shouldn't be seen as a guideline on how to be good.

[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

I agree! Most good people are nice, it is complemntary after all.

At the same time, without getting trite, being nice does not make people automatically good, and is often a performance to get away with vile shit.

To paraphrase another idiom, people who are easily offended should be offended more often. People often dismiss others because they are not "nice" AKA not submissive or servile to their opinions or demands. Oh, this person is "mean" so I get to talk shit about them or ignore them.

Yeah, not every good person is a good role model, one can always act better than the people they admire.

[–] seahorse@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

I half agree with his gun regulation stance. While ideally there would be more caution given to who owns guns that is unfortunately not the world americans have been living in the last 80 years or so. The fascists have guns, lots of them, and I'm not giving mine up while they have them.

Everything else he said is 100% based.

[–] Metallinatus@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, yeah, fascists having guns is a "randomly giving guns to any moron with a pulse" problem.

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[–] workinkindofhard@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I do think it is funny that there is significant overlap between the ACAB crowd and those that would want to disarm (or at least heavily restrict) the average Joe so only police have access to modern firearms

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[–] matir@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I've never been made happier by one of his rants.

[–] bobslaede@feddit.dk 2 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I don't see how his, very reasonable, views makes Linux itself (more?) political. What is the point of this post?

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The man can say what he wants and it's nothing to do with Linux. And, his gun stance seems fair to me. I think he is an intelligent man, and I think he's allowed to say his thoughts without some lame arse trying to tie his ideals to the OS. Move on, nothing to see here.

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[–] LolaCat@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

Common Linus W.

[–] Puls3@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

One great thing about about software is you don't have to agree with or care about what the creators thoughts and beliefs are, software is at the end of the day just software.

Doesn't get any less political than that.

[–] ravermeister@lemmy.rimkus.it 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I create software by myself and disagree. First it's very political where and for whom I choose to develop software. Second, software is always made for a purpose and the purpose can be indeed (and is) very often linked to political or social cause. E.g. a software which only purpose is to harm people, say for controlling mass destruction weapons is in my point of view a very political software

[–] Puls3@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

software is always made for a purpose and the purpose can be indeed (and is) very often linked to political or social cause

Its not though, typically software exists to serve a basic function at its core, and it could be used or contributed to by anyone for any number of things.

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[–] k_o_t@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (7 children)

comrade linus 🫡🫡

but also he’s finnish, which is communist, so he’s obviously a communist smh 🤷‍♀️

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[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago
[–] eoli3n@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

social.kernel.org : one should migrate to lemmy :°

[–] lemme@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Did you know that linux kernel source code was leaked to the public? Go see for yourself how political it is!

/s

[–] maddison@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

average based Linus take.

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