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[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 161 points 4 months ago (8 children)

thats fine with me, since im not sick in the head, and i respect people's consent

[–] Klaymore@sh.itjust.works 147 points 4 months ago

This is a 4Chan user

[–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 88 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like the type of thing the sickest fuck in the room would say to avoid suspicion

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's funny because this sounds like the type of thing the sickest fuck in the room would say to avoid suspicion

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago

Recursion: see recursion

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

And that's why I haven't said anything. Now no one will realize that I'm the sickest fuck of them all.

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[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 51 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Didn't even think about this. I thought of how crushingly boring and annoying it must have been to have been unable to move at all. For 6 months.

And now I realize it must have been dreadful, at first.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Imagine if your one of the thousands of people who would likely happen to have the sun in their eyes at the instant of freezing.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Or getting frozen mid-orgasm.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Depending on the exact moment you might assume you died and the ecstasy you were feeling was an afterlife.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago

Getting post orgasmic torture from a dominatrix tho...

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Good thing is that since time has stopped, you won't get your eyes burnt since light stopped travelling as well.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

As an aside, if light stopped too, wouldn’t that mean that the world would be plunged into darkness?

Photons of light reflect off of objects, and into our eyes before being converted into electrical signals by the brain and translated into visuals that we see. But to do this, photons and electrical signals need to be able to move through time and space. So if time is stopped, and light is stopped with it, none of that other stuff happens, and we all would effectively be blind. No?

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

Yes, see my other answer.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Does this mean everything would be dark?

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The scenario doesn't really make sense as the electro-chemical activity in your brain would be stopped as well, so you couldn't be conscious.

But if we suspend disbelief, you could say that you're stuck with the image that got to your retina when time stopped. Which means that you couldn't see the protagonist moving!

Also, realistically, he couldn't even move as he'd be against a barrier of unmovable air.

[–] match@pawb.social 5 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I think a more reasonable interpretation is for time o have been slowed to an extreme extent: a factor of 10^6 would mean the 6 months of protagonist time would've been experienced as 15 seconds of bystander time, and light would be slowed down to about 1000 km/h, still substantially faster than a human can move unaided to avoid Cherenkov radiation.

To avoid friction fires, we have an Alcubierre (warp) bubble of fast space out around the protag. Let's say about 6 inches for reasons, and with a smooth gradient between protag time and slowed time. This is also necessary to prevent shear forces from tearing up everything the protag touches.

This should handle most situations well: the protagonist can manipulate and interact with typical objects with their hands and other body parts without instantly exploding them or shearing them in half. However, humans that the protag directly interacts with will end up experiencing much more clock-time during the interaction, potentially even within the human reaction time of 250ms given a dedicated amount of attention.

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[–] imecth@fedia.io 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

And now I realize it must have been dreadful, at first.

That's basically sleep paralysis.

[–] corus_kt@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

So either six months of sleep paralysis or you experience six months of time in the instant that time returns, possibly mentally handicapping people from the sensation. Yeah, OP better go into hiding, anyone who survives will hunt them down - regardless of what they do.

[–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

not me. i would have done some nasty shit.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

genuinely asking: what sort of things do you mean, and why ?

[–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

i would pee in people's drawers because i don't think that happens enough.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Like, in their furniture, or would you be pissing other people's pants?

[–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 months ago

a little bit of both. but primarily in their nightstand drawers.

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[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

good luck getting anymore in mine!

[–] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

"Honey! There's pee in my pee drawer, and it isn't MINE!"

[–] LoreleiSankTheShip@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I would have at least visited museums and the likes in cities I can't afford to visit, as well as making food with all the tasty high quality ingredients I can't afford.

Maybe drive around on some expensive motorbike just to see how it feels. If my financial situation at the time was especially dire, maybe take a "loan" from a bank somewhere before unfreezing time.

You'd have to be a saint to have that power and not do anything illegal. But one thing I would never do is fuck over regular people, only corporations and big businesses. After time unfreezes, those can recover from whatever I did and I doubt I'd but a significant dent in their profit margins, but regular people would have to live with the consequences of what I did, so that's a no go.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 months ago

i see that we have different ideas about what 'nasty' means :)

[–] shani66@ani.social 6 points 4 months ago

A saint to not break laws? Laws are not morality, often they run directly counter to morality.

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[–] NormalPerson@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Depends, what would happen if I stopped time in a moving car? Like if I were to stop time when that one car was swerving in and out of traffic, almost hit someone, then flicked them off?

If I stopped time then would I still be carried by the momentum and splat against the inside of my car leaving everyone frozen forever or undo time stop and some freak accident is talked about on the news?

Or do I get to stop time while they're flipping the bird, pull their car off to the side of the road, take off their tires, fill their gas tank with sugar, then swipe their offending finger in their butt crack and leave it pressed against their upper lip?

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

If momentum was something to worry about, I feel like you'd have to worry about the movement of celestial bodies/etc too.

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[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Assume some people were around you when you froze time. They saw you did something and then were the only one who could move.

Then they went through the absolute nightmare of being paralyzed and conscious for six months. And they know you've caused it.

I highly doubt the whole world concented to this.

Whatever else you did in frozen time barely changes a thing.

[–] Tired8281@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What if you spent your frozen time, determining the problems of everyone in the world, and solving them? So, when everybody got unfrozen, it was a utopia.

[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People may say "you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs", but would the eggs agree ? With hindsight you might become seen as a hero, but I doubt that would change the immediate hatred people would feel upon release from half a year of bondage within oneself.

Exactly. If someone mowed my lawn for me, that's cool. If they tied me to a chair so tight I couldn't move until they were done, not so cool.

[–] weker01@feddit.de 4 points 4 months ago

One person's utopia is another's dystopia. There will always be people genuinely upset about what you did or what "utopia" you want to archive.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Dude you can get in trouble for doing a lot of things that aren't a criminal sex act. There's so much more out there! Doing H until you nod out in public, stealing products, playing guitar after 10pm, orchestrating dog fights, gambling on when elderly people will die, driving a type I school bus with a physical on file that's two years and ten days old, the possibility are endless.

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago

Like half of these dont work if time is stopped tho.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would still steel shit from larger chain shops to eat an stuff so that wouldnt work out. Also i would test my powers first.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

steel shit? sounds painful...

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes i have a disorder where i shit steel

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I respect people's consent in the scenario where it's something they experience or are affected by it. I'd imagine frozen time is consequence free zone for everyone.

[–] jorp@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes this is fantasy but what you're effectively stating here is that if you don't get caught it's not wrong. The same argument would justify groping a deep sleeper, do you think that's not wrong?

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (9 children)

No, not really. I'm saying that if there's zero effect for the would-be victim, I can't see them being wronged. I think time freeze is probably not the right scenario for this though. They'd be physically affected. Copying them in an simulation type thing is more along the lines of what I'd consider harmless.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Unfortunately for me, I feel like if I thought I could get away with something consequences free, I’d probably do it. I’m not proud of that aspect of my morality, but I’d be lying if I denied it.

That said, I remind myself that if I’m too ashamed to do it under the scrutiny of people, then it is 100% not something I’m doing. That goes for simulations as well. Because there is always a chance someone will find out… and frankly, I don’t think I could live with myself.

Right or wrong, that’s my take on it.

[–] jorp@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's a very honest and self reflective stance that I think a lot of people would agree with. I don't think it's a moral failing, much of morality is putting aside your basic instinct and desire in favor of your rational mind realizing what's best for you and society at large.

People have empathy to varying degrees and it's something that needs training just like any other skill. Acknowledging where you have gaps and working rationally around those gaps is how you become a moral person. I don't think you were necessarily being hard on yourself but others feeling the same way might be so I figured I'd share this perspective.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well thank you for that assurance. It’s a scary thing to admit to, especially when you see people around you who seemingly do not struggle with this sort of thing. The whole, “I don’t need a book/law to tell me what’s right or wrong,” are lucky in that respect.

[–] jorp@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I don't think any individual is implicitly moral with regards to everything. I'm not suggesting everyone has the same hidden desires but I believe everyone has some instinctive behaviors and thoughts that they need to challenge rationally in some way or another. Philosophical frameworks for morality wouldn't exist or be debated if it was unusual to need a rational framework for moral behavior.

Unless somehow every harm someone inflicted on another somehow affected themselves in the same way there'll always be a selfish instinct that has to be overcome. If it was easy it wouldn't be something to admire and respect as part of one's character.

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[–] jorp@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

that's another interesting but debatable position. AI generated deepfakes of teens fall into that category.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (5 children)

So debate it.

An it harm none, do what ye will. Every day bullshit harms me dramatically more than any dude privately jerking it to me.

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