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Model says her face was edited with AI to look white: ‘It’s very dehumanizing’
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 05 Nov 2023
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"I just want to do what I love so I must automatically tolerate the toxicity and abuse of the industry without complaining."
I see you're suggesting that she shouldn't be surprised that the fucked up culture in the fashion industry is fucked up since everyone knows it's fucked up. But what everyone else is trying to tell you is that we should still talk about how fucked up this is, because it's fucked up.
I think the point they’re trying to make is there are much worse things happening at a broader scale in the fashion industry than this one model being impacted by this event.
And we can also be angry about those. Not every news story has to be about the most important thing ever.
What did you want her to do, just not join the industry?
That just seems like systematic racism to me.
This is textbook victim blaming. What isn't textbook is how mad you are about this. You are so mad about this, and it's unsettling.
Yeah victim blaming. Those are the words society uses for what you're doing. In your defense of why it's not victim blaming you are continuing to do so.
But that's not the weird part because we all fuck up and need a reality check from time to time. I don't care about the story so much. It's an unfair situation and I'm glad she's getting credit for her work and calling out a bad player (I mean doing this shit for exposure instead of money should have been the first clue, but she's young and inexperienced and that's not her fault).
But you, my friend, are clearly upset about this beyond reason and it makes me worry for you. I wish you luck in whatever war is raging inside yourself.
You've been in this thread for hours vehemently arguing over pointless bullshit. You say everything is perfectly normal, but your actions speak louder than words. This isn't normal or healthy.
If I cared what anyone thinks about me interacting with sex workers I wouldn't've have posted. I comment on all kinds of things. But you know that from creeping on my posts.
You quoted me a poem! I'm glad we could close out on a positive note.
Maybe she shouldn't be surprised, but if she doesn't call it out as BS that should stop who does?
Should actresses not be surprised when producers try to rape them since that's been happening since the beginnings of the film industry?
And why the fuck should she not be surprised? Removing blemishes is one thing. Changing their skin tone is quite another.
Oh, okay, maybe she should just shut up and take it then?
Nothing gets done if people don't talk about this stuff. The only power the masses have here is to turn this into a bad look for the companies involved.
Oh, I see, so because it isn't new, we should just give up, go home and just accept racism as the norm?
MLK would be so proud.
What exactly do you think we are doing?
You don't have to be surprised to find something worth talking about. We talk about unhinged politicians all the time, yet we've come to expect them. We talk about school shootings all the time, yet they are not a surprise any more.
So your solution is for the victim here to simply leave the entire industry? Heh. Sure. Because that'll totally pan out alright.
How many industry swaps have you done in your lifetime, bud? Because with a new industry comes new skillsets and completely different training requirements, which often takes years to complete, not to mention requiring completely different ways of thinking.
"This school shooter blew my legs off", says the foolhardy teen who had the audacity to become a student in the USA, then complain about school shooters.
This is how disconnected from reality you sound.
So it's her fault that she's suffering from racial prejudices in the fashion industry? Because she dared to join and 'we all know what they're like'?
Interesting logic. Let's expand on that.
Are all women at fault for any misogyny they encounter in the tech industry? That industry's problem with women is VERY well documented, so they must know what they're getting into, right?
Or how about BMEs working in healthcare. The racial discrimination issues there are also well documented, so we can let those slide right, because they should have known?
People like you are the reason these things don't improve. Your acceptance of this status quo sickens me.
So fashion gets a special racism pass because other industries are more essential?
You also forget that fashion has a big influence on wider culture. If racism is accepted there, it will seep into wider culture from that front.
Or is she at fault because she trained to work in the fashion industry and not another industry that you would prefer?
You're delusional, dude. Thinking people deserve racism because they work in a field you don't like. Does that make you more elitist or racist? I can't tell. Definitely a mixture though.
Ahhh okay. So just destroy an entire industry just because you don't like it. Gotcha. That sounds totally reasonable.
So let's put that mix at mostly elitist, but also racist because you somehow believe this woman's issues with racial discrimination can be brushed aside simply because of the industry she works in.
Hey, while we're at it let's destroy the music industry too. It's not strictly needed for human advancement. The movie industry can go too. Heck, all acting roles must go!
In all seriousness, you're crazy if you think the entire destruction of industries is the way to solve this. You are not right, you are insane. The fashion industry has existed for literal millennia. So long as people want to express themselves with clothing, it will always be a thing. There is no reason it has to go hand in hand with racism, and it can be reformed.
People are allowed to be upset by racism even if the target doesn’t seem to care. The labor and image rights are also a major part of the story.
Besides, according to the article, Costello has been accused of shit like this before. I wouldn’t be so quick to say that the reporter decided to “invent the racist motivation”.
Because white girls are prettier. And she should know that.
Jesus you are disgusting.
If my baby cousin gets hit trying to cross a busy street where many deaths have already occurred, I will still cry, even if the collision was entirely predictable. He didn't deserve it. Knowing danger and accepting the risk does not mean you deserve the dire consequences when they occur.
You have trouble reading, don't you?
Is that in the same way you are culpable for all the other knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers who will follow in your steps?
Lmao
I consider this comment to be loud and boisterous, but completely tone deaf.
White supremacy is not the side you want to be on.
That superficial, artificial clique would be an entire industry as far as I can see you saying
That's not something that should be argued as "just a clique, why did you show up?". That'd be like saying the Activision/Blizzard scandal in the gaming industry was people who just should've accepted the shitty situation they were in. People should be able to say that an industry they want to be in is acting inappropriately.
And you still have no qualms about the industry treating white as the obviously superior modification they would make to her appearance.
You just defend that industry by calling HER the moron.
If you quack like a white supremacist, you are a white supremacists.
Happy you don't like being called what you are though.
Leaves room for you to correct that.
PS: by correct that, I mean having harsh words for the producers, not the beautiful young lady who the producers whitified.
Concern trolling, as are all accusations of "diluting a term" are. If girls at risk of being edited stayed out of the fashion industry - which was your advice - then the fashion industry would be left with only white women. But you knew that, didn't you?
Lmao, it's so fucking bizarre that you think you're the only one who realises this.
Wow, galaxy brain, how did you figure this out before the rest of us? Yeah it's fundamentally fucked. But you're absolutely deluded if you think this incident had nothing to do with race.