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[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ROFL at your stuck in 2015 comment, I wish I were!

In 2015, hydrogen was ~$20/kg and trending down to ~$13-16/kg by 2017, with the DOE claiming it to be "about the same cost as gas today" despite the fact that 1 kg H2 is roughly 1 gge, so the costs were about 4x gas costs, and 4x their target of $4/kg at the pump.

Fast forward to today and guess what, ~~that price kept dropping, and it hit the DOE targets!~~

Just kidding - prices this year are up to $36/kg, making the Toyota Mirai one of the highest TCO cars on the market.

Take me back to 2015 when that hydrogen fuel was half the price!

[–] Hypx@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

That's a local supply issue. It reminds me of the polysilicon shortage of late-2000s. Plenty of people came out of the woodwork to proclaim the solar panel as a dead technology. But the physics of the idea, namely that it's all made from sand, meant that cost will eventually plunge and it did.

Hydrogen is the same story. Investment has recently skyrocketed across the world. No one except a few BEV fanatics are still opposed to hydrogen. That is why guys like you are stuck in the past. You are repeating the same story as what people said about wind, solar, even the BEV itself in its early days. It is guaranteed to be wrong.