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-Ben Franklin
it's true, he really said it
CW: Benjamin Franklin being racist against everybody except anglos and speculating that space aliens would want to see more white people
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He also had a quote that I read in Losurso’s Liberalism where he wrote to a doctor and basically said “aren’t you ashamed that you save all these people who don’t deserve it?”
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what?
Death to America
I think it was down to the fact that most Swedes were peasants back then so were tanned from working outside in the sun
One of the clearest examples of how massively stupid the concept of "whiteness" is
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Weights and Measureshead
Did Ben Racism ever actually go to any of these places? Curious how you would distinguish a German from a Brit purely on the basis of appearance
He traveled to Europe, but the Germans he's talking about there were probably the Pennsylvania "Palatine Boor" farmers, who were from around the Rhine Valley. What he really means is that you can visibly distinguish a poor farmer from a white upper class city dweller based on complexion.
He also has a political motivation here to exclude Germans and Swedes from whiteness because Franklin wanted a purely Anglo America since he was racist as heck
You’re telling me supergenius founding father Franklin (PBUH) couldn’t tell the difference between dirt and having dark skin?
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I dunno if you're being sarcastic but if not there used to be a stark divide between pale wealthier white people (indoors) and poorer tanned white people (outdoors). Having a tan put you in a lower caste. Apparently this was such a noticeable thing you could visibly tell which people in Pennsylvania were German or English
That’s not necessarily an ethnic difference. I’m sure if you kept the Germans indoors 23 hours a day they wouldn’t be “swarthy”.
Seems more like a class divide to me
Yeah pretty much. Franklin wanted all non-Anglos to be a lower class in America.
yes but he gets to decide how he's racist and if anyone could make him believe in only rational things he wouldn't be racist
beyond the racism, does this greyhound, bifocal ass wearing motherfucker think that light acts like water and fills available volume not taken up by the dark? or that removing the woods would somehow make the earth's surface substantially more reflective?
I think he is making reference to leaves and bark often being darker than grass.
Techbro brain, not even once, not even in the 1700s.
Never trust a man who walks around his house naked.
I as a Person of Discoloration, support this.
How can it be white face when Marx is already Chinese?
You should check out some of the old Korean War movies China made. Chinese actors in full white face depicting moustache twirlingly evil American generals.
Last Train to Bussin’
There’s also the Chinese action movie Wolf Warrior, of course. They got real English speaking villains for the role!
As a cum goblin cave beast I give them a cracker pass
who cares
yes but whiteface isn't a thing
![berdly-smug](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/664e619c-9ae4-4f13-9d87-0f387e07b61f.png "emoji berdly-smug") how can whiteface not be a thing if this is it?
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Not really...? The face is obviously put on the person via technological means. Just CGI stuff. Kinda like when they put in green pillows to generate fantastical monsters over them, so they can be interacted with. The person/object is a placeholder for edits.
Til computers racist!