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Watch this...

Radio Free Asia: "did you know in North Korea they eat babies?"

Me: "I don't believe that."

Radio Free Asia: "WHAT?!?!? How did you do that???"

See. And I'm just a dumbass who does nothing but smoke weed and watch pirated b-horror movies. Whats everyone else's fucking excuse?

People fall for this shit because they want to, not because the state department has magical brainwashing powers. Propaganda doesn't mean people don't have fucking agency.

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[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I grew up in a rural CHUD family, as did half the people here now. No excuses.

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Im not making excuses. It just seems to me that if the starting conditions were better it would be more likely for someone to break out of the liberal/chud zone and challenge the status quo. Like if there was no red scare in the USA ...Communism would be less of a taboo for many people.

To turn this around im not sure I can take much credit for arriving at the conclusion that the USA is the great Satan. Im not American. Now if I was an American and I lived a good life in the USA ? Then maybe ?...it must be incredibly easy to buy into the American myth if you are white and live a good (wealthy) life.

In a way the people that arrive on Hexbear to me seem like people that beat the odds to arrive at the conclusions they arrived at. Since the site does skew towards Americans and it seems the Left is pretty fucked in the USA. So being someone who is cool with Marxist Leninism is kind of like being a Unicorn. (At least in the heart of the beast)

[–] arabiclearner@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But if you had grown up in a lib family perhaps you would have been super pro Ukraine and Israel? Perhaps something else could have happened in your life course that made you follow your family's CHUD views. You never know how you could have turned out. I mean how did any of us get here? There are a wide variety of factors. There are many that grew up in CHUD families but never got past the whole John Stewart/John Oliver level of liberalism and are now pro Ukraine and all that shit. So yeah, you never know...

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get what you're saying but isn't the conclusion of this line or logic that nobody can be held accountable for anything? Like are we just embracing hard determinism? Is every Nazi innocent of their crimes because the only reason they turned out that way cuz their mom made them ham and Swiss instead of Turkey and provolone for lunch one day?