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[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Nope. I don't support Israel doing that either. However, Hamas will never tolerate peace. They will never allow a 2-state compromise; they want Israel completely gone. And Israel is allowed to defend it's borders. There is no happy ending here for anyone.

[–] Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The right-wing party in Israel (the party currently in control even after losing multiple elections) will also never support peaceful co-existence. They will never allow a real two state solution where the other state has control over its borders, air, water, import rights, etc. They want Palestine completely gone, and in fact Bibi was just at the UN arguing that Israel already has complete control and ownership over the Palestinian territories. Palestine is allowed to defend against the longest running occupation in history. There is no happy ending here as long as the Israeli boot is on the Palestinian neck.

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately for Palestine, Israel will win.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They already have total military control. What does win mean?

Relocate the population from the Gaza strip to the West Bank?

Birth control in the water supply, so the population slowly ages out?

Internment camps for all military aged men?

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

It will likely mean leveling Gaza to the ground and telling its residents to find somewhere else to live without giving them support. It won't be pleasant for anyone.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Gaza strip is within Israel's borders. They hold direct power over whether the people who live there have electricity water and food.

Israel is not defending itself. They are using hamas attacks as a pretext to commit mass violence on Palestinians.

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course Israel is defending itself against a homicidal organization. The fact it's in Israel's borders is irrelevant.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Its very relevant. Is depriving all 2 and a half million palestinians of food water and electricity self defense? Is bombing palestinian homes an act of self defense? Is depriving palestinians of human rights an act of self defense?

Self defense is not murdering innocent people. It never is no matter what. They're using the attack from hamas as a pretext to commit mass acts of violence against innocent Palestinians.