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[โ€“] Lucero@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is the kinda worse case scenario for the state department because Republicans are well funded and protected by law in ways democrats aren't. If they disband nato, and do all the structural destruction like cut back on spending/ debt default for the administrative state. The hand of the deep state be forced to act in broad day light it would kick off a series of events that would severely diminish the power of the American empire and factions with in the state department and dod respectively would start to actively push agnist each other even more then up until this point.

That being said it reminds me of an old Lincoln quote where he says the only way we can destroy America is if Americans do it to them selves.

A lot of this is speculation and we don't know how far the liberal faction of the deep state is willing to go in the face of, exiting nato, recalling military bases, debt default, massive military budget cuts as a result of a chaotic debt default situation or Trump retaliation moment we have no idea if he is serious and would go that far.

Contingency: the one issue that is out of everyone's control and is the largest external threat to everyone is if one faction or another of the American deep state desides to start up a direct war with another nuclear power in order to 911 war on terror all the problems away.

An example, trump win then exits nato and helps the Republicans default on the national debt and he gets Kennedyed. The state blames it on China and we do war in Taiwan. War on terror style. This is the worst outcome for every country because of the nuclear question when the Americans take massive losses ๐Ÿ“‰ trying to take the island.

Or we have another 4 years of trump in the news and nothing really happens.

[โ€“] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

one faction or another of the American deep state desides to start up a direct war with another nuclear power in order to 911 war on terror all the problems away.

Would this even work at this point?

[โ€“] Lucero@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

I'll be real i don't think It could work, mostly because the Republicans of 2001 and then ones now are so far away from that moment of American post cold war triumphism that the nature of the conspiracy brained conservatives would call what ever cover story and the national security state faction wouldn't keep the lid on out of spite of the liberal faction. Trump in a lot of ways weaponized the right into a Greek tragity of the more you want to avoid a fate. You end up fulfilling it. The right wants to make America great again but ultimately have doomed it by trying to save it.

[โ€“] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

They can just heart attack gun trump