And we shouldn't allow this concept to go unchallenged here on Lemmy.
Commenting on an active post is not brigading
Posting a link to something is not brigading
Commenting on something you were linked to is not brigading
The only thing that might be brigading, but isn't because it isn't a real thing, is someone explicitly going, "Hey everyone, go here and harass this person"
It's all fine and good that we have some new rules to keep the peace with other instances but we must fight against 
I almost think we should bring back down voting now that we're federated. We keep bumping posts we disagree with by constantly "dunking" on them. This ensures that the most hostile hexbear content is constantly on other instances front page. Libs will still complain about brigading but it won't be in their face anymore.
Yeah Reddit's name could have been "Promote or Censor" because that is literally what the point of the whole site is, and they even have a threshold at which it literally hides the comments and you have to expand it by clicking a barely-visible button
Their whole expiriment was the gamification of content curation to goad users into doing their heavy algorithmic lifting for them. And for a long time, their algorithm was better than most social media’s because it had more substantial buy-in. It was easier to get votes because votes are private and easier to get people invested in the content because of the “community” model.
Facebook and Twitter’s algos eventually got better at tweaking a bunch of knobs to maximize engagement, but in terms of UX, they always just felt random or like they were constantly fucking with their balance. I don’t think we saw any meaningful overhauls in algorithmic curation until TikTok. But maybe I’m missing some more niche platforms. Anyone else remember Phillip DeFranco launching a scrollable video news platform like years before TikTok was a thing?
Maybe we should also remove upbears?
But I use that number for validation
I like when my silly takes get upbeared, makes me feel supported by the community 🫂
Although it might stimulate more discussion, as comments would be the only way to interact with something
I remain steadfast in my belief that we should replace upbears with react emojis, filled from the emotes we use regularly but are legible when shrunk down.
I was opposed to even having upvotes back in the early months of the site. I still don't like it, although it does effectively trigger the monkey-brain "number go up" impulse that can drive further posting.
Yeah and we do need some way of surfacing GOOD POSTs
Nah downvotes are awful. They make discussions worse, fewer people will turn to explaining themselves through comments, and they can facilitate targeted trolling while staying hidden (I think this was actually why we got rid of them the first time). Also it's really funny being able to point out that we don't even have downvotes when we're accused of brigading or whatever elsewhere in the fediverse
At the same time I dont think just sending PPB/posthog is particularly more constructive than a dozen down votes. I do still want to encourage actual responses.
Oh yeah, totally. Some people are way too loose with the ppbs out there
That's an issue with the active algorithm that allows posts to stay afloat on the top of the feed for too long. I don't think it's worth compromising hexbear culture by reintroducing down votes.
Ideally if we post on an instance that allows down votes then we should be allowed to down vote. But I imagine the logistics of that would be hard.
nah, downvotes suck. I prefer not having them, period. people should reply if they want to disagree.
nah
We don't need it. Just use lemmy and engage.
Let them rant about downvotes and brigading as much as they like. We're not downvoting or using any kind of targeted harassment and they're still running scared.