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[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Political objectivity is impossible.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would argue that asking a machine to list known information is not impossible.

Here's a very clear example where chatGPT refused to answer a question regarding Biden but happily answered the exact same question for Trump.

https://youtu.be/_Klkr6PtYzI?t=520

And before anyone starts, NO! I'm not a supporter of the oompaloompa king.

[–] Sekoia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Mhm, but with the way LLMs work, it's not possible to actually remove bias since it's baked into the training data. Any adjustment towards "neutral" would be biased by what the adjuster considers neutral.

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[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Only if emotions are involved. Of course it's not possible as long as we train our AI with flawed human-generated data though.

[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LLM's require human generated data, that's how they work.

[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's how we make them work today. It is possible to stay politically neutral in a language though. And therefore your generalized statement is incorrect.

[–] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does politically neutral even mean though? Because it's definitely not centrism.

How would you train AI without biased data anyways? All data carries some bias from whoever generated it.

[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does politically neutral even mean though?

A conversation being void of any kind of politics is politically neutral. And that's most conversations I have.

[–] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Most people don't agree on what subjects are and aren't political.