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It actually is biased though. UpperEchelon did a video exposing this. I swing to the left myself, but I would prefer if the LLMs were objective.
Political objectivity is impossible.
I would argue that asking a machine to list known information is not impossible.
Here's a very clear example where chatGPT refused to answer a question regarding Biden but happily answered the exact same question for Trump.
https://youtu.be/_Klkr6PtYzI?t=520
And before anyone starts, NO! I'm not a supporter of the oompaloompa king.
Mhm, but with the way LLMs work, it's not possible to actually remove bias since it's baked into the training data. Any adjustment towards "neutral" would be biased by what the adjuster considers neutral.
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Only if emotions are involved. Of course it's not possible as long as we train our AI with flawed human-generated data though.
LLM's require human generated data, that's how they work.
That's how we make them work today. It is possible to stay politically neutral in a language though. And therefore your generalized statement is incorrect.
What does politically neutral even mean though? Because it's definitely not centrism.
How would you train AI without biased data anyways? All data carries some bias from whoever generated it.
A conversation being void of any kind of politics is politically neutral. And that's most conversations I have.
Most people don't agree on what subjects are and aren't political.
It will never be objective if its dataset is something like the internet. It will always be prone to bias because that's the double-edged sword of LLMs, they have to have vast quantities of data and the only place they can get that is the internet which is biased opinions everywhere.