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To me it's the age old frustration of just not having a shared set of fundamental beliefs or even a meaningfully shared vocabulary. To them, we're using a bunch of words incorrectly and using them to arrive at inallowable conclusions.
which is why debate doesn't work. no one can fit an entire description of the way they view the world into a forum post.
That's why I insist on fitting my entire Quinian web of belief into 90 comment long argument chains. It still doesn't work of course but no one ever doubts that I ate my wheaties after reading one of those bad boys.
This is why I fit my worldview into a series of pictographic depictions
i still think analytical philosophers were right to focus so much on clarity of language, the average disagreement with a liberal is entirely as you said - a fundamental disagreement on premise acceptability.
-style debate doesn't work, but rhetoric (or dunks, in the parlance of our times) can.