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Liberals are fucking moronic scum, we have no freedom, we have no rights, we are granted no provisions for our betterment or even protection or basic decision making

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[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know what gets regulated real fast when leftists exercise their second amendment (pfft) rights? Militias

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eventually, sure. Regulating them is probably good since about 99% of them are blatant white nationalists. I'm sure the pushback would be mostly against leftists or labor organizers, but the existing militias would take some damage too.

[–] Yurt_Owl@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Law existing and law being applied are different things. There is no case the police would raid a white supremacist militia because they probably run it

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why avoid forming militias because they might be banned or regulated?

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the being arrested or murdered that deters people. And by the time corporate media is done with you, everyone will think you were in a terrorist cell.

I mean, if the militia is marching with red and black flags and stuff without a doubt you're right. I think there's an assumption a lot of people are making that I'm suggesting forming a communist militia, but that's not the case - the militia would absolutely have to be outwardly apolitical.

[–] motherfucker@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s not that militancy doesn’t have a place in the American left. It’s that a militia is not a drop in replacement for a union. There are currently good conditions for forming a union, at least the best there have been in decades. I don’t think the same is true of left-wing militias, at least not among everyday workers. If you’re in an area where you’re treated shittily enough and your local gun culture is amenable to forming a militia in your spare time amongst your coworkers, there’s a good chance that militia is not left-wing anymore. If nothing else, you’d need to identify a prominent social leader and start a strong ideological core with them. There’s a lot of luck involved in the conditions being right.

I wanna be clear that that doesn’t mean people should avoid taking it seriously and considering it as an option. I just don’t think that most people will come to the conclusion that it’s feasible for them.

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No doubt - and to be clear, I don't think the answer to labor organization is always a militia, and it's definitely not an explicitly left militia. The only situation where this would work is an outwardly non-political (in the American sense) militia

[–] motherfucker@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, seems I made some rash assumptions about what you meant. Since it seems you’ve given this a fair amount of thought, if you ever write up an effortpost on it, I’d be happy to read it.