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Fediverse vs Disinformation

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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


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  1. No disinformation
  2. Posts must be relevant to the topic of astroturfing, propaganda and/or disinformation

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

There's no real diplomatic skill involved. It's simply threatening to cut off the zios from their tools of genocide. It's super easy and straightforward but genocide joe somehow couldn't figure it out, most likely because he's a brainwashed loser.

[–] SoftTeeth@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's more likely that Putin amd Trump are planning to cut funding in the middle east because this was all a proxy war for the Ukraine proxy war. And since Trump was elected to obey Putin he will pull out of Ukraine, allowing Russia to pull funding from the middle east.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is there some kind of /c/aneurysmposting, but for semantics instead of syntax? I read this about 3-4 times and I still can't even follow how you're trying to say funding for Israel is related to Russia, or what you mean by "a proxy war for the Ukraine proxy war."

If I have missed something, and there's some kind of galaxy-brain way in which Israel's operation in Gaza is a proxy war for Ukraine, enlighten me, but I feel like you're spouting advanced nonsense for some reason I can't grasp right now.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Russia finances multiple groups that finance terror groups in the area. If Israel/Palestine ends then Putin can redirect that funding to Ukraine.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which terror groups? How much does Russia fund them? Roughly speaking.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They sponsor groups that sponsor other groups the GRU/FSB are no different than the various US intelligence agencies in that regard.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which groups do they sponsor, and what are the other groups that those groups then sponser? By about how much do they fund them?

Part of the reason that I'm asking is that Russia is estimated to be spending about $400 million per day in Ukraine. It would be surprising to me if funding or defunding a terror group in the Middle East made any dent at all on their ability to do that. But mostly, I'm just asking what you are talking about.

Which groups do they sponser? By about how much?

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For perspective the nominal GDP of Russia in 2024 is about 2.18 trillion USD. That means Russia generates about 5.5 billion USD a day. 400 million USD is not that big of a slice of that daily number.

Russia finances Syria and Iran who funnel the money to groups like Al Quaeda, Hezbollah, The Houthi Militia et al. They are doing what the USA did with the Mujahideen in Afghanistan wherethe CIA paid the Pakistani ISI to pay brokers who handed the money out. .

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 1 week ago

The Russian country generates about 5.5 billion a day.

The Russian government generated $352 billion in 2024, and spent $357 billion, running a surprisingly small deficit. They means they spent rather neatly about a billion dollars a day, of which almost half that was devoted to the Ukraine war.

That's what I mean when I say that the scale of whatever they are doing with Iran and Syria, to the extent they're even doing anything with Syria anymore, is simply not relevant in comparison to what they're doing in Ukraine.

For example:

In 2022/23, Russia with US$2.7 billion is by far the largest investor in the sanctioned Iranian economy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Russia_relations#Trade

They could, not just stop providing aid to Iran, but pull back every dollar they've sent so far, and it would finance seven days of the Ukraine war.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who the fuck is upvoting this lol

[–] recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Sockpuppets, mostly.

No point in pretending the entirety of .ml is anything more than 3 chimpanzees in an oversized trench coat.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat -2 points 1 week ago

I got curious and checked the list. If you have the ability, do yourself a favor and take a look, it's interesting.