Fools get downvotes here. When the US launches a violent offensive directly on a neighboring independent country with the intent of destroying its people and conquering its land, which NK and Russia are currently trying to do, maybe you'll have a point.

"Neighbor" is doing all of the work here, as the US had pushed its frontiers far away from itself for about a century. Of course the US has actually invaded:

Canada
Mexico
Cuba
Guatemala
Puerto Rico
Haiti
Hawaii
Grenada

[More but I don't feel like compiling the full list]

And some of those in the last half century or so!

Of course, if you remove the morally meaningless qualifier of "neighbor", your point goes entirely out the window. I think this is obvious to everyone, including you, so really the question is why the need to lie to yourself about US imperialism? Why downplay it in bad faith?

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ignores the point of my comment

Hyperfocuses on one tiny detail

.ml username

What a shock.

"Neighbor" was never an important detail, and only someone struggling to string together some type of deflection from the point would focus so deeply on it. The point, as is abundantly clear to anyone with a couple of braincells to rub together, is that these countries are doing that now, as in at this moment, and are targeting civilians, which the person in responding to gladly ignored with their "but no, everyone says Russia is bad" bullshit.

And you have the gall to accuse me of making a bad faith argument. Once again, pathetic.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

"Neighbor" was never an important detail, and only someone struggling to string together some type of deflection from the point would focus so deeply on it.

Neighbor is the only qualifier that makes your claim arguably true for, say, 30-40 years. You included it yourself, I didn't make you so it. If you get rid of the term "neigbor", you are simply wrong.

Instead of running away from it and trying to blame me for noticing, you could just acceot where I am correct and try to synthesize.

You will get into conflicts and be consistently wrong if this is how you respond to correction.

The point, as is abundantly clear to anyone with a couple of braincells to rub together, is that these countries are doing that now, as in at this moment, and are targeting civilians, which the person in responding to gladly ignored with their "but no, everyone says Russia is bad" bullshit.

That applies to several countries, including US-backed Israel and the US-backed reactionaries in Syria, which is why the term "neighbor" does so much work. And in providing that obfuscatory defense, you are doing the thing you claim others are doing, which is excusing and minimizing war and death on civilians.

And you have the gall to accuse me of making a bad faith argument. Once again, pathetic.

It requires very little gall. You are putting on quite the display at the moment with the flurry of insults and deflections.