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[–] Invertedouroboros@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So, the following is a genuine question and not a snide remark.

Does that matter? Is the military going to respect that? I'd heard prior to this that the military had forbade parliament from gathering. What's to say they don't just side with Yoon?Certainly wouldn't be the first time in history that a nation's military has dictated the corse of the nation's civil future. I really hate asking questions like this but I'm just not familiar enough with the politics of South Korea to know if this a done and dusted thing or if the military is likely to go for a coup if Yoon pitches it.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)
[–] Invertedouroboros@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

God, I was just breathing a sigh of relief till this poped up a moment later.

The South Korean military says it will maintain martial law until it is lifted by President Yoon Suk Yeol, despite the nation's parliament voting to block its enforcement, according to the country's national broadcaster.

Hope that's just postureing.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ooh, not great. Preview of the US in January? Except for the blocking part, that'd never happen.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, even if evidence appeared at this stage showing the election was interfered with here, the damage is done, there would be no attempt to keep office. The S.C. would rule the period for recounting the votes has passed, precedent being 2000 Florida.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

True, but I was referring to when Trump declares martial law, as he said he would. There will be no opposition from his own party as there was here.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, Republican Congress members wouldn't attempt to stop it, they endorsed it.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

It's possible a few might, and with the razor thin majority they have it might end up a majority opposing it, but the SCROTUS would nip any resistance in the bud regardless.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Hopefully half heartedly because I just found a live feed of people in the streets in Seoul. So they aren't exactly enforcing martial law yet.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Who's not gone, the military or the representatives

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Military. They said they're not leaving until the president stops declaring martial law.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hopefully they're not actually doing anything though, just standing around until it's resolved.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's how it seems so far. Hoping this doesn't end badly for South Korea. The last thing we need is another dictatorship in the world.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well then democracy has fallen in that country. That blows

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not just yet, but it's dangerously close.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The populous voted whether through representatives, singular vote or any other democratic system that their parliament has the right to disband martial law. They voted to disband it and they have not disbanded. It is an act of treason unless he immediately followed the process elected and put in place by the people.

The only way forward would be to have him removed and charged with such immediately, or he is in fact a dictator.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

In the end, it's what the military actually end up doing (or not doing) that will determine South Korea's fate. You're right that letting them get away with it will only encourage further lawlessness in the future even if they manage to get through this now.

EDIT: Yoon said he'd lift it, but I really hope they don't let the opposition to the rule of law go unpunished.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Who is "the military"?