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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.

If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

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0. Only post socialist memes


That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.


2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such


That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.


3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.


That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).


4. No Bigotry.


The only dangerous minority is the rich.


5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention "Mantic Minotaur" when answering question 2)


6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.



  1. Absolutely no posts or comments meant to relativize(/apologize for), advocate, promote or defend:

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[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_state

This article is about sovereign states governed by communist parties. For the hypothetical social stage proposed by Marxist theory, see Communist society.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And unironically using it shows every leftist that you have no idea about socialist politics 💀💀

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it's just such a common term and people generally understand what it means. Surprised that some have a big issue with it tbh

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's such a common term of capitalist propaganda...

This is a leftist community just fyi

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it has more to do with communist parties in rule than actually saying they've achieved communism. A leftist community understands the difference so doesn't seem like a big deal to me

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is semantics, I agree. But tainted semantics and objectively wrong.

You could instead say "communist-led country", "socialist country".

The mainstream usage doesn't understand the nuance you mentioned btw

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Most people don't have much insight into politics in general, but for a specifically leftist sub the use of such term would seem fine imo since you could expect people to understand the difference. But a better, more precise term would be better.