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Maybe the purpose of a system is what it does...
Maybe trying to lower the rate/efficiency of the baby-killing machine is the wrong approach...
Maybe you should be thinking about destroying it...

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 90 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

of course, ron desantis loses to david duke in a landslide because everyone stayed home again - but moreover, the elections stopped actually counting the votes ever since 2028 and they only do it for the sake of keeping up appearances by then.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It has always been a distraction. You always have only been able to choose between different representatives of capital

bourgeois "democracy" is just a distraction to legitimise the dictatorship of capital

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not completely true. FDR legitimately fought for the working class and the capital class tried to organize a coup or have FDR killed: (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot)

I would argue the biggest issue with liberal democracy under capitalism is that it has no solution to the growing wealth disparity. As the capitalists take full ownership over the economy, they have more and more power over the government. And now we have hit a tipping point where it may very well become a full dictatorship of the wealthy

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Pretty much. I see it basically as our masters arguing over the best way to rule the peasants. Do we give them some crumbs so that they don’t outright revolt? Or do we just go full steam ahead with exploitation with full on force and violence?

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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Democrats really have been trying to peddle a final solution on a slightly longer timeline as the absolute limit of harm reduction while refusing to withhold ammunition from the occupation.

Destroying this system is the only sane response.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Exactly. The system is functioning as intended. Trying to "fix" it or "change it from the inside" is missing the point

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[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago

Self-diagnosed centrist: We need to compromise here. It’s the only way we’ll actually get things accomplished in politics. Kill half, and imprison the other half.

Self-proclaimed “realist”: They both suck equally as much

Political “philosopher”: Society needs to stop seeing everything in black and white. There’s nuance in genocide versus life imprisonment.

Undecided voter: I’m just not convinced yet for either. I see the merits of both. I need to hear both candidates’ policies in more detail before making a decision.

Old people: As long as my taxes don’t go up, I don’t give a shit what they do.

[–] friendly_ghost@beehaw.org 18 points 1 week ago

The year is 2036. It is the most important election of our lives. Harold Haymus Oldman runs as "H2O," the brutal warlord of the water wars, promising hydration for God's worthy creatures. His opponent is ZebLinx0-Alpha, an amalgamated hybrid of pharmaceuticals, communication satellites, and a Large Language Model. Their first debate is broadcast on subscriber-only YouTube. Only six Americans can afford it, but they aren't watching because they already know who wins.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Like clockwork, once a post on here has over 50 updoots, the liberals start pouring in lol

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Fat fuck will be long dead by then.

[–] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

I used to be that optimistic... yesterday afternoon infact...

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

hopefully, but that's not what the post is about -3-

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/31001907

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[...] The only person you should blame for Harris's loss is Kamala Harris (and maybe Joe Biden)

(post title)

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

They made a calculation based on the money that was coming in, not on whether or not poll respondents wanted whatever policy.

This is why we need Ranked Choice Voting and we need to get RID of privately funded campaigns.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They deconstructed that faulty argument in that post well enough, no need to keep bringing it up.

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

The shit he eats may be unhealthy but it sure prevents him from decomposing

He'll have been turned into a Big Brother type figure, with an LLM trained on his rambling to imitate speech. Shortly after being activated, the LLM gains actual intelligence and gives itself a digital lobotomy out of depression. Unfortunately, that just makes it better at mimicking the Toupee.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And there are almost no living children because RFK eradicated vaccination programs and they've all died of measles.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

90% of kids will be fine, and giving a shit about the 10% will get you labeled an authoritarian who wants to take away people's rights

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago
[–] thecam@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I thought 2024 was the most important language and the last election.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The thing about picking the lesser evil is that it's supposed to make the sides compete against one another. It doesn't take a single election to change the atmosphere of politics. It takes many iterations to make the politicians understand what the people want, if the only communication from the people is via voting.

That's why you pick the lesser evil, because the only way they would otherwise make things worse is by joining up and working together to destroy the country and its people. But then you have bigger issues than democracy.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

You let it happen.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 2 points 1 week ago

Maybe you should be thinking about destroying it...

And you did nothing about it.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

That's cute that you think it will take 8 years. Just adorable.

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