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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 61 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Trump got 2 million less votes than he did in 2020. I think this is more of a case where left-leaning people failed to show up in numbers that led for Biden's win in 2020.

Overall voter turnout dropped by something like 18 million. So yeah. The fact that Biden and the Democratic Party are obsessed with tooting their own horns while the lived experience of the entire fucking middle class has gotten measurably worse caused this. The election just underlines their failure to do fucking ANYTHING.

And yes, I know the GOP obstructs everything. But for fucks sake can we please try some malicious compliance at the very least? Or - and hear me out - just do shit anyways, make a difference, and fuck the rules. The GOP does that when they do fucked up things; refusing to do that in the interest of doing GOOD things that would actually HELP people is a self-defeating strategy. Stop bringing a deck of cards to a fucking gunfight. Jesus tapdancing christ.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 28 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Didn't Democrats raise a record amount of money this election cycle? And they were supposed to use it to get out the vote?

There is money pouring into these campaigns, and it doesn't make any difference at all. It's all just a corporate welfare project for local TV media in swing states.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

Didn’t Democrats raise a record amount of money this election cycle? And they were supposed to use it to get out the vote?

Harris only had months of campaigning, while Trump had over a year. That alone put her at a massive disadvantage, since much of the vote is often decided (in people's minds) well before the elections.

But the reality is, as long as 50%+ are OK being in a cult run by an incoherent madman, they'll ignore the self-harm and keep voting the same way.

[–] mmcintyre@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If the left not voting leads to Democrats losing, you'd think the party would try to win those votes. Instead they campaign like they don't need them. And well, I guess.. the campaign advisors actually don't need them, they're gonna get hired to run the next campaign regardless. And the fat-cat donors are gonna stay rich regardless. Both ready to steer the next election!

It's always "the left" that's causing candidates to win by not voting, it's never candidates failing to give them something to vote for. Or advisors and donors pushing the candidates towards positions that will cost them the election. It's always "the left".

But hey, she got the Cheney's vote! And look, my swing state family's as well. But Democratic candidates and policies need to go big, or they're gonna keep being sent home. People voted for Trump for the same reason they voted for Obama - they absolutely want change, and 25K for a mortgage down payment ain't it.

[–] Sakychu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

People in 1932 also voted for change and boy did they got it.

[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

They're not done counting. There's a decent chance he has more votes this time.