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[–] qqq@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Better than Trump wasn't her platform. I will die on this hill because I'm so sick of this. Look at her platform. What is too far right about her platform? Tell me specifically.

No her platform and campaign weren't the biggest problem. The way you're talking and everyone is parroting that was. The "everything or nothing" people were. The left sows its own apathy.

And, regardless of all of that, regardless of the fact that her platform was actually good, the idea that you only get to look at her platform in a vacuum is a complete joke. The idealism of the left is fucking us all. This isn't a theoretical exercise. You realize Trump wants to pull out of NATO? That the right wants to outlaw life saving medical procedures? You realize real people are going to actually, without hyperbole, die because of this election?

We're in a fight against a Christian fascist state right now. Miss me with this bullshit. I would have been 100% motivated to vote for a turkey sandwich. This is all such a joke and this narrative is infuriating. The left is constantly acting like a bunch of toddlers kicking and screaming because they got the wrong ice cream flavor while the right marches towards the end of everything I thought we believed in.

[–] niemcycle@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Exactly this. The average leftist can talk for ages about how Harris has to 'earn their vote' but at the end of the day you vote for the political party you have, not the one you want. The fact Trump won the popular vote is shameful on the part of the US left. Voter suppression definitely played a part but the lack of urgency, the constant infighting and demands for Harris to appeal more to them absolutely did not help matters.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

I'm not happy about this outcome either, it's an incredibly shitty day for any progressive in any country. But the end result is simple. Less people felt compelled to vote for Harris here than they did for Biden in 2020. It's not about a "everything or nothing" mentality, it's about delivering a message that makes people want to go out of their way to vote for her. She alienated a lot of people by doing stupid shit like campaigning with people like Liz Cheney, saying she'll have Republicans in her cabinet, supporting Israel, being tougher on border policies, supporting fracking, etc. They banked on having more Republicans vote for them than progressives being disenfranchised. Harris isn't much of a progressive, especially on the world stage. She just looked to be a progressive when comparing her to Trump.

There's no doubt there were other things like misinformation campaigns and such. But they knew about this for a long time and should have prepped for it better.