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(i ripped this off wikipedia real fast so sorry if it's lib)

In October 1776, the Public Universal Friend contracted an epidemic disease and was bedridden and near death with a high fever. Their family summoned a doctor from Attleboro, six miles away, and neighbors kept up a death-watch at night. The fever broke after several days. The Friend later reported that [deadname redacted] had died, receiving revelations from God through two archangels who proclaimed there was "Room, Room, Room, in the many Mansions of eternal glory for Thee and for everyone". The Friend further said that [deadname redacted]'s soul had ascended to heaven and the body had been reanimated with a new spirit charged by God with preaching his word, that of the "Publick Universal Friend", describing that name in the words of Isaiah 62:2 as "a new name which the mouth of the Lord hath named".

From that time on, the Friend refused to answer to their deadname, ignoring or chastising those who insisted on using it. When visitors asked if it was the name of the person they were addressing, the Friend simply quoted Luke 23:3 ("thou sayest it").โ€Š Identifying as neither male nor female, the Friend asked not to be referred to with gendered pronouns. Followers respected these wishes; they referred only to "the Public Universal Friend" or short forms such as "the Friend" or "P.U.F.", and many avoided gender-specific pronouns even in private diaries. When someone asked if the Friend was male or female, the preacher replied "I am that I am", saying the same thing to a man who criticized the Friend's manner of dress (adding, in the latter case, "there is nothing indecent or improper in my dress or appearance; I am not accountable to mortals").

editorial note: I think this is a very cool story and I really love hearing it. We've been around forever and we've been doing variations of this forever. It's really beautiful


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[โ€“] ashinadash@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They're people just like you and me. I can see how heteronormative social coding would make that sort of, "approaching someone" difficult but also, women are just people Idk. I can remember thinking this when I was like 12, but all the mystique is not real and invented, probably by straight neurotypicals or something.

[โ€“] Wendy_Pleakley@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I get that they're people, the issue is that I'm not fully people. I look at them and I look at me.

spoilerIt's like, can I just burst into flames and then look like you instead? Please? How do I look like you? How do I be someone who is pretty and nice and shops with her girlfriends?

The social coding is precisely my problem, I don't know how to approach anyone because I'm in-be-fucking-tween. I feel pressured to approach situations as a guy because that's how people see me. Women don't know I'm nonbinary when I walk up to them. When I do get to drop my Man Impression?

I'm tired. Maybe I should take a breather. Come back to Hexbear when I turn 13.

[โ€“] ashinadash@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You're supposed to be at least 13 to use hexbear iirc =)

Women be shopping, uh it would be pretty rad if you could just burst into flames and then look like beautiful cis woman I guess. I'm kind of weird I guess because I thought transition kinda rules.

I dunno how the social signaling works with this, too much autism. I have read tell of women being able to tell sort-of-subconsciously that the ostensibly-man is actually an egg because they're effusive and dorky and such, but idrk how it works. Not doing a man impression is awesome though

Also sorry if I'm being weird or anything today, stupid, I'm goin off a prescription and my mind is kinda funny.

[โ€“] yewler@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Not relevant to the conversation, but now that you mention it, holy hell I want few things more than for a woman I come out to to tell me they saw it coming due to my dorkiness or effusiveness

[โ€“] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

yeah thought like this until i turned 16 cause i went to all boys catholic institutions and didn't make any real girl friends until then lol

[โ€“] ashinadash@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

It's cool when you actually talk to women and find out "waow just like me fr fr!" honestly. One of the few cool parts of my upbringing...