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Hmm. I'm still using a 2014 iMac, as its 27" 5k screen still very good for coding (with added memory). Sometimes develops a bunch of thin vertical lines, which come and go maybe dependent on temperature, but hasn't changed for for ten years and i can live with those. Just wish they'd continue providing security updates for it.
Linux runs great on Intel iMacs. Just sayin’.
27" 2015 iMac here. No problems whatsoever. I'm going to use this thing until it dies.
Edit: Gotta love the downvotes for literally just owning a Mac. Good luck breaking into the industry as a video editor without one, guys.
A PC will run circles around a Mac for half the price, what are you talking about? They require you to use a Mac for some reason?
It's called an industry standard. You have heard of those before, I presume.
Of course I have. But standards are not necessarily mandatory. Would you care to elaborate on this "standard" you speak of?
No, I don't care to hold your hand and explain to you the whole idea of an industry preferring you have a specific piece of technology over others and how finding out you have that piece of technology helps you get work. You'll have to figure that one out for yourself.
Seems highly unlikely that an employer cares terribly about what kind of hardware you use. All they care about is the end result.
Let me introduce you to a little thing called media production workflow, where there are over 500 different file formats in active use, and getting it right forms the basis of most links in a chain hundreds of links long.
You start sending me botched files with the wrong codecs and see if I don't find another subcontractor immediately.
So you're getting botched files and that is the fault of the operating system? 🤔
Maybe. You think I'm getting ProRes RAW files from your Win11/Premiere rig? Fired.
I have no idea. That's what I'm asking. You mentioned "botched" files but now you're moving the goalposts to proprietary file formats?
I thought we were talking about media production but your goalposts are over there in the playground.
Botched means I asked for more industry standard production files and you gave me something else, because you don't understand ROI in industry. Equipment is cheap compared to time. Just use the tools the job requires.
I used to teach guerilla filmmaking back in the day of "desktop video is the next big thing" so I see where you're coming from, even if you hide your ignorance about the work behind ideals. Knock yourself out learning to edit with a cheap gaming rig and the free version of Resolve, make cool stuff and upload, start a wedding video business.
But get work in a large production as a contractor? The tools are cheap compared to time and amortized quickly in taxes. Buy the tool the job requires. Skills should be platform agnostic.
That's not what "botched" means but thank you for clarifying.
Sure but you don't have to choose. They can be both inexpensive and time-efficient, and without supporting a user-hostile and eco-destructive company. And you're limiting your talent pool to those with the funds to constantly buy and replace multi-thousand-dollar disposable machines, for absolutely no reason.
I agree but you're contradicting yourself. What you're saying, in no uncertain words, is that your skills don't matter unless you use a Mac.
Well you clearly know my industry better than I do, so I'll defer to your expert knowledge.
Are we just talking about Final Cut Pro here? Theres a pretty short list of applications that don't work on linux or windows well.
Do you just mean its easier to get a job if you have a Mac?
The latter, yes. If you go to a meeting and don't have a MBP, they're going to think you don't know what you're doing half the time. And if you have a MBP for remote work, you might as well have an iMac or a Mac Pro to do work with at home too.
I'm out of the industry now and my MBP died, so I'm running Mint on a Thinkpad. And when this iMac dies, I'll probably do something similar.
But if you are in the industry and show up to a meeting with a Thinkpad (or any other non-Mac), they're often going to think you're an amateur.
Is it fair? No. But them's the breaks.
I think you are essentially saying using Apple on average will make you more money, but I would say that money isnt always the most important thing.
Plenty of people choose to make less money than they know they could with other means, for a variety of reasons.
The question is whether there is room at all for that group of people in your industry in the US?
Then you don't have kids.
Sorry, I'm not going to stop putting food on the table out of some anti-Apple idealism. There are far bigger issues in this world than which type of computer people choose to buy.
Please spec out a PC with similar hardware to a Mac and half the cost.
Okay. How about a 7800x3d and a 4080? EZPZ.
No case, no board, no power supply, no OS. You don’t even give a machine you compare to.
I'm pretty sure the standard is building your own can be slightly cheaper, depends which peripherals you already own since those aren't usually part of a build every time.
But anyways, the advantage is that the built device will last longer and is made of replaceable parts that are cheap and easy to find. Easy to upgrade.
Please provide an Apple model and a comparable PC with prices.
Give me a model to compare to? Are all apple models the same? Or do you mean just pick any of them?
Geekbench can be a benchmark for comparable performance. You can look up benchmarks for Mac models and then find comparable performance PC parts under benchmark charts.
Pick one and find a comparable PC.
The MacBook Air is the best selling model, so take that if you don’t want to choose yourself.
I got a free 2012 iMac and updated it using OpenCore Legacy Patcher.
I keep pondering grabbing one of those on the cheap and getting one of those kits that turns it into a really nice 27” monitor.
They are insanely cheap...
Wow thanks, never heard of this before. I was getting all set to buy a new Macbook so I could install the latest versions of Xcode and keep developing iOS apps. Looks like I can keep on abusing my 12yo Macbook instead.
I have a 2014 MacBook Pro which I love more than any computer I've ever had. This is in my list of things to do. Before I was just going to install Linux on it but this seems like a better solution to keep all the apps I was using.