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What's wrong with overnight oats? I really like them.
I read it as cutting through the spin. We use contemporary words like overnight oats, instead of words like gruel that have strong connotations of poverty, for essentially the same food, to obscure the fact that we are the same working class as medieval peasants were. There's nothing wrong with gruel; and we're just not as far removed from peasantry as we've been led to believe.
Some people get a kick out of making you feel bad about anything and everything you enjoy by reframing it in the worst possible light.
Oh, you bicycle to work? Enjoy breathing in all that carbon monoxide from the cars passing you and a greatly increased risk of dying due to a driver not thinking that you're a human being. Hope you don't cross a street and inconvenience a driver you selfish prick!
Oh, you eat primarily vegetarian with only a little bit of meat? One, meat is still murder, you're a prick. Two, of course you would mention it. Three, fuck you and your entire family and your entire gene pool you piece of shit.
I could probably keep going but you get it right? Don't let the things that you enjoy be taken away from you by people who are chasing clout and will say anything that they possibly can in order to get it.
Way to miss the point. It's about some people acting like these are choices rather than "this is the best I can do". Would you really prefer the inconsistency of the gig economy if well paying consistent jobs were available? Would you eat rice and beans for every meal if you actually had the choice? Wouldn't you prefer just a few more square feet in your tiny home(maybe in the kitchen or bathroom)?
Acting like people are making all of these choices out of genuine desire and not a good helping of "this is what I have to do to survive" is what the meme is criticizing and what you on your high horse up there failed to see.
I get where you're coming from but in my ideal world we would all work gig jobs and they would provide us enough money to live at the very least at our current lifestyle.
The 40-hour work week is a lie. It's not needed anymore, and anyone who sits down for 4 hours and analyzes our current economic system would probably agree with me.
You have gotten up onto a high horse about how I am flawed and wrong before checking whether I was on your side.
Besides, the point you are making, while it has its merits, only touches on my point. My point is enjoy what you like. If you like overnight oats just go ahead and eat them.
It doesn't mean you're a "peasant eating gruel". It's okay to like what you like.
Good luck running your ideal society on all gig jobs. I predict total collapse of infrastructure within the first six months.
My point is proved.
Like I said, some people love nothing more than to reframe whatever you are saying or whatever you are doing in the worst possible light for no reason other than to make you feel bad.
I’m not trying to huwt yur feewsies, I’m saying you can’t run an advanced society on gig work. I’m sorry reality is a thing.
You seem to think I have some sort of emotional investment in this and I can assure you that I do not. I'm saying that today's reality is not tomorrow's reality and that things can get better, which is a fact and not really up for debate.
As to whether or not they will get better that very much is up to debate, but if you think that being condescending is proving your point then maybe you should take some time and think a little longer.
I would love a tiny home.
But fuck the gig economy and contract only employment.
My favourite part of Tiny Homes is how they came into vogue and were subsequently priced out of reach of poor people.
Fortunatly, the cost to construct one has not changed similarly, and there are at least a few projects around the country (US) where land is owned by a charitable organization/person/collective and tiny homes are being as a solution for some people.
I really wish I knew of any in my area, I'm currently unhoused and live in a car, doing gigs for the greedy (waiting on a previous state to send mine my background info... for what is now 2 fucking months, so that I can be approved for working in my field) and living in a safe situation without the risk of others doing something to me, is something I very much want to have for the first time ever in my 30 years. I'm a cross country trans refugee, who's somehow unknowingly rented from a neonazi, a "friend" who robbed me, another "friend" that just took my (sub)rent money and split without paying the rent, or my childhood with an abusive family.... so I have concerns....
And a tiny home at a fair price/rate would likely be affordable for me, but I just haven't found anything.
From what I understand they are still affordable, the cost savings is building it yourself and having the discipline and patience to be able to do something like that on your wages.
Building a tiny home is a grueling and arduous task. There is nothing TurnKey about it.
My cousin built one because his mom lent him some land to build it on and so far it has cost him about $10,000.
That's pretty good but he lives on a truck driver's salary and he has a wife and a kid. He's deeply in debt from his tiny house project and he's almost done with it.
Once he finishes he'll be able to claw his way back up out of debt, which is good, but there are no TurnKey solutions that are also affordable.
Yea they were an affordable option for like 2 years then became a novelty that trust fund kids use for a few years before settling into mansions.
My mom bought some land (.5 acre)and built a tiny home on it, cost over $100k altogether still for a 700sqft 1b/1bth with a loft that can have a sleeping bag if needed but is really storage. Works for her needs and is half the cost of any of the homes in her town that are all falling down but still 200k for some reason..
There's a company just made a cool modular house for 10k but we're not allowed to like it because Elon lives in one
100%
The smaller the home the less I have to clean.
I eat oatmeal with raisins, pistachios, and molasses like 4 mornings a week. It's fucking delicious
Well how bougie of you
Each serving gets like 8 salted pistachios from the bulk food aisle at the HEB
That's like $17 worth of nuts in their breakfast
I know you're just making fun, but I bought $6 worth of pistachios today and it'll probably last me about 3 weeks
The food bank gave us a bag of bulk bin pistachios and I've been wondering what to do with them (other than just eat them alone) since I've never bought them before. I'll have to give that a shot! They gave us some dried cherries, too; I'm curious if they would be good in the oatmeal with the pistachios, maybe? Thank you for the ideas. :)
For some people eating oats = poor, people with money eat bread and eggs and bacon and cereals in the morning...
I put some oats in water last night to finally try oatmeal🥺
Fwiw, I personally would recommend utilizing milk (or milk substitute, if that's at issue) rather than plain water. I find the texture and flavor improved. No matter what flavoring additions I make, if the cooking medium is just water, my feeling is that it's like eating wallpaper paste.
Yeah, I might try that too. I'm already drinking about half a liter of milk per day so.I thought trying something different :)
(I might also try protein powder for some extra flavour.)
Yeah, the texture is not the best, but I found that cooking oats in water and adding frozen berries makes it really good taste-wise. And a colleague told me that adding milk to oats cooked in water is almost the same as cooking them in milk.
But man, adding semolina to your oats and cooking them with milk makes suuuuch a good breakfast because the semolina provides a tasty dense medium in which the oats are suspended.