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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

nia-you-what No way........ I became e-famouse............ and it even has Gender® Accelerationist Manifesto™ in it!! In non ironypoisoned shitpost terms, ty I really appreciate this. I'm just gonna poke parts of this, very nice reply tho.

fuckin stupidI wish I felt the "same species" way about other autistic people like you do... I guess it should provide some bridge of understanding but there are autistic people who I've chafed worse against than neurotypicals, sometimes. I dunno, I'm probably a little too doomer about the whole thing. Might be my fault for being Fucking Annoying too

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That's interesting about neurotypes being a class structure and the eventual falling away of labels - I guess to me the difference is that while Gender Is Fuckin Fake Shit, people of different neurotypes have very distinct material needs that may always need to have a distinction. Idk, maybe we can have a society where everyone's needs are met on that level, but some neurotypes and individual people's needs can clash, so I'm not entirely sure they'll ever go purely as utility labels.

but I personally think that, currently, the label of "autism" and calling myself autistic is the best way to find people who think like me

a way to tell myself that I'm not , I have a different way of relating to the world,

I think Gender Outlaw by Kate Bornstein talks just a bit about the importance of labels and identifiers to marginalised groups, and probably Feinberg does too. The contrast and difference is the point, I'm p sure. "Autism" is an extremely good label ngl.

very funny to see myself in the mirror now, looking more fem than ever and happy with it, and thinking in my head "abolish gender"

Very based more like soviet-huff obligatory daily reminder that hormones are not inherently gendered though, Idk. These views are compatible. I like that you're happy with your reflection tho ✨

[–] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

not stupid at all

I wish I felt the "same species" way about other autistic people like you do... I guess it should provide some bridge of understanding but there are autistic people who I've chafed worse against than neurotypicals, sometimes. I dunno, I'm probably a little too doomer about the whole thing.

you know, if i really think about it, i think that i worry about the same thing. i like you both, so that's 2/2 other autistic people i've met that i like, but while browsing around the internet sometimes i get this chafing feeling too from other autistic people (in spaces like Reddit, YouTube etc.). it's possible maybe i'm relating to a subtype, or maybe the characterization of autistic/non-autistc isn't actually that helpful, and it'd be better to find people i like to talk to by other qualities? for instance, i like people who think deeply about things, who get super into the things they enjoy, who don't try to "fit in" to general society, and who are confident in what they believe. those are the people i look up to.

people of different neurotypes have very distinct material needs that may always need to have a distinction... some neurotypes and individual people's needs can clash, so I'm not entirely sure they'll ever go purely as utility labels.

YES!!! this is exactly what I was thinking but couldn't put into words. thank you!

Gender Outlaw by Kate Bornstein

alright, time for a new book!

obligatory daily reminder that hormones are not inherently gendered though

true, should have put "fem" in quotes as i meant more into the cishet-normative gender "female," as in, i'm presenting more in line with the "female" side of the gender binary than ever, and yet i'm less binary on the inside than ever.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

oh ok thank u

i like you both, so that's 2/2 other autistic people i've met that i like,

crush naw...

But yeah it's just people stuff I guess.... I also dig the whole, 'thinks deeply about things & super into things they enjoy & doesn't try to fit in & confident in their own beliefs' person, which is common to but not universal for autistic people. There are people who infodump in huge paragraphs, and people who infodump by typing 97 single-line messages... Subtype, perhaps. Sadly autistic people often get their im-not-gonna-fit in or firm-beliefs crushed by ableism in their childhoods, which sucks. For what it's worth I think I do have a better hit rate with autistic people than allistics, usually. If I had a formula for finding people I liked that'd be rad.

Oh np!! I would hope they'd become less important as the world becomes less neurotypical centric, at least. I dunno how far that can go but I have optimism about it.

Gender Outlaw kinda slaps, skip the theatre kid shit and the play script but it's classic gender theory, I dig it. I think it mixes well with the Accelerationist Manifesto ✨

Ohhhhh, that is a pretty good contrast honestly and I kinda feel it too. Good vibe!

[–] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sadly autistic people often get their im-not-gonna-fit in or firm-beliefs crushed by ableism in their childhoods, which sucks.

yeah, i had a bit of that tbh, but what was actually crushed was the entirety of me, not just those beliefs. i'm still working through it all.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

yea Also not uncommon, sadly. Hope it's goin' well.

[–] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm actually posting

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago