th3raid0r

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[–] th3raid0r@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Agreed, but in our world, with the powers that be sympathizing with fascism more and more, it's increasingly important to never be seen as throwing the first punch. Throwing hands needs to be in response to something meaningful. Otherwise we cede the moral ground in the eyes of many and reduce our ability to build more political power.

To be clear, I understand what I'm asking for seems AGONIZING, to "turn the other cheek" feels incredibly dangerous in the moment. But we have to understand that "turning the other cheek" is a social performance that helps build our power, and makes us safer. Doxing, by contrast, earns very little sympathy from a person that sees things in the common "both sides" narrative.

[–] th3raid0r@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I'm so confused. You're responding to a post that I'm confused about assumptions OP was making about my position and you come in and state something general about the beehaw philosophy (of which I read - and agree).

Are you just trying to call me a bootlicker or something? Looking at this thread I don't see how I'm being "politely horrible".

Could you expand?

[–] th3raid0r@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because I typically comment from my account at tucson.social - I've been in the discord since the early days and even helped the team iron out some federation issues between tucson.social and here. Sure, I'm not on first name basis with you or the admins, but to say I'm just now showing up isn't correct.

[–] th3raid0r@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I wasn't trying to omit anything on purpose. In fact, I'd argue that the history shows that this was in the context of discussing not wanting to perform any moderation on the content. While you might have felt you were clear that this is a personal view, such context muddies that fact.

Now I know that it is indeed a personal position and not one of beehaws rules.

[–] th3raid0r@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair point - commented more in response to the full image, but suffice it to say that it didn't really seem that inherently personal. The context was that the response was initially "We don't usually do that" and the disourse in response was explaining their personal philosophy. When that's done it's hard to establish if this is truly a personal opinion or not.

[–] th3raid0r@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did you even read my post? I actually conceded the fact the article itself isn't the issue, but the posts comments which were indeed Doxing folks. I even conceded that so far admins were doing a good job of removing the actual doxxing comments, but this post was gaining so much traction that such an effort would be futile.

Given that a majority of your comment seems to assume I'm taking a position I'm not, I'm not sure how to respond.

[–] th3raid0r@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Okay, so the discussions on Discord have revealed to me that I shouldn't stay here.

Apparently it is okay to Dox those we don't like here.

So, apparently if things are getting normalized we should just "go along with it"?

OOOkay, I'll get the popcorn.

[–] th3raid0r@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That might be it, I wasn't using an App, just the beehaw UI.

[–] th3raid0r@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thank you! I woulda made this a private report, but it seems like those mechanisms are borked today.

 

Totally expect to see a sea of "Nazi Sympathizer" comments, but look. I don't think we should be Doxxing anyone so that we don't invite folks to Doxx us.

I don't think this is radical, but apparently this opinion is somehow tantamount to being an actual Nazi in that thread.

I don't wish to remain in a community that says that Doxxing is bad unless we disagree with the victim - and I think that the post's continued existence communicates this. Sure, it's a federated post and not from our community, but honestly, I think it should be removed from Beehaw. I've already removed it from my tucson.social instance since I'm in no mood to deal with retaliatory doxxing.

Post link - https://beehaw.org/post/10286519

To be clear, the Moderators have been removing the worst offending comments since the article itself doesn't actually Dox anyone, but navigating to the source thread on lemmy.ml provides easy access to ALL the doxxed information. As such, I think the whole post should be removed and/or locked.

Update: Post has been removed - I have no further issues. As an aside - good lord Beehaw - I get it I'm a Nazi apparently. I'll get out of your hair and delete my account later this evening. Sheesh.

[–] th3raid0r@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Mine is like half-way serious. Which I thought would be obvious because the word's formal use have largely fallen out of the cultural lexicon.

(Hello from my alt-account, btw)