plasmoidal

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[–] plasmoidal@startrek.website 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was reasonably entertained while watching the movie, but ultimately I can't quite figure out what the show was trying to say.

Given that "Section 31" was originally conceived as a series, I think the influences of that are clear. For example, the introduction of a band of misfits that are clearly meant to keep on adverturing and the framing device of "transmissions" with individual titles.

The challenge is that the time we were allowed didn't give us enough time to really know any of the new characters, which is a shame because they offered an interesting and rare opportunity to see what life is like in the ST universe outside of Starfleet. Those unique perspectives are one reason why DS9 continues to be so well-regarded and why I found season 1 of PIC actually quite compelling.

I think the shorter format would have been better served if it was a story exclusively about Georgiou finding a new place for herself after what she had learned from her DIS experiences, maybe leading up to a final confrontation with San which interrogated the idea of a "good dictator". Indeed, I found the flashbacks and her interactions with San the most engaging parts of the movie. But because that comprised only a small part of the movie, we didn't really learn much more about her than we already knew. And the actual bond/conflict between them was never particularly clear, with San's motivations coming from left field.

The movie also suffered from what I call the "Inception effect" which is that it set up some potentially interesting mysteries but then solved them in the most boring manner. Having Fuzz be the mole was such an obvious choice, given that they had clearly established his ability to control electronics. As I was watching, I actually thought he was a red herring and that Melle was the mole all along, using her masked accomplice to fake her death at the beginning (a la "Gambit"). That would have at least turned Melle into an actual character, but I guess Deltans are cursed to die in the first third of any movie they're in.

[–] plasmoidal@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The music cues of Starbase 80 are reminiscent of those from horror movies.

I think they are a specific reference to James Horner's score in WoK, specifically the part when the Enterprise crew boards Regula I to find the crew slaughtered by Khan. Even the lighting and angles of the exterior shots are similar to that part of the movie (or at least they seem to me).

[–] plasmoidal@startrek.website 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Worf insists that the truth about the cloned Kahless be revealed to the people at the end of "Rightful Heir", so I assume that info was part of the press release when Kahless was crowned.

[–] plasmoidal@startrek.website 8 points 4 months ago

You bring up a good point about how Seven's Borg implants may have actually helped her to adjust more rapidly than someone who had been similarly traumatized and isolated for an equivalent amount of time. That said, it might be a wash, since her implants also harmed her in various ways: Seven's implants compelled her to revisit the site of her assimilation ("The Raven"), resurface personalities of assimilated people ("Infinite Regress", albeit they were malfunctioning), develop paranoid delusions ("The Voyager Conspiracy", though arguably this was again a malfunction). Seven's implants were also said to have inhibited her ability to experience the full range of emotions ("Human Error"), and that was by design. Still, I think your basic point holds, that it seems like Seven could learn and develop more easily than an unmodified 30 yo human.

But the question of Borg tech raises another issue that makes one wonder whether this adaptability could be attributed to her implants: What exactly were the Borg "maturing" in that chamber for 5 years? Presumably, they didn't stick her in that chamber for her personal development---the Borg would have selectively "matured" the parts of her body (and brain) that would enable her to function as a drone in the collective, nothing more. So it may be possible that the maturation chamber effectively "walled off" or "isolated" the parts of Seven's mind that would have been developing during that time to stop them from interfering with whatever parts the Borg did want to develop. As a result, even if the rest of her body was effectively 30 yo, her mind might still be effectively 6 yo (or maybe a bit older, depending on how the chamber worked).

In the case I just described, Seven's improved "adaptability" would arise more from her humanity---aided, ironically, by the Borg having preserved it during their "maturation" process. In a sense, Seven would not be a "feral" child who was left with the wolves at 6 and then developed from there. Instead, she would be a child of 6 who was left immune to many of the effects that her subsequent experiences would have had.

[–] plasmoidal@startrek.website 2 points 4 months ago

a waste of good genetic material

It's worth comparing this perspective to Spock's view in TWoK that Kirk not fulfilling his "first, best destiny" as a starship captain is also a "waste of material". In other words, Vulcans place value on a person expressing their truest and best self. That would jibe with the idea that Vulcan society would not place artificial barriers to people expressing their gender and sexual identity, since doing so would be viewed as a similar "waste of material".

[–] plasmoidal@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In fact, the script specified that it be pronounced "KAY-nar": https://www.st-minutiae.com/resources/scripts/186.txt So that must have been forgotten/changed at some point, or maybe it is the auditory equivalent of "whisky" vs. "whiskey".

[–] plasmoidal@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Minor quibble (but then what other kind of quibble would it be):

In DS9: “The Adversary” the leader of the Breen Confederacy in the 24th Century is known as the “Autarch”.

Actually, "autarch" was the title of the Tzenkethi political leader, not that of the Breen. To my knowledge, the title of the head of state of the Breen Confederacy was never spoken (except perhaps in the form of Breen static).

[–] plasmoidal@startrek.website 21 points 2 years ago

Loved it.

Some amusing details:

  • For Pike's singing voice, he adopts a kind of Meatloaf/Russell-Crowe-in-Les-Miz style that is exactly the right mixture of masculine and adorable.
  • The build up to the Klingon Boy Band: We know that Klingons love opera, heightened emotions, spontaneous group singing, and choreography (if you're willing to consider martial arts a form of choreography). La'an even explicitly mentions singing old sea shanties which would seem to be an obvious way to translate the Klingons into musical form. So naturally, I was shocked that the Klingons would not immediately assimilate into their new musical reality. I even told my husband, "I can't believe the Klingons would want this to stop!" And when it hit, everything made perfect sense.
[–] plasmoidal@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

David wasn’t aware that Kirk was his father

Technically, David did know that his father was an "overgrown boy scout" named Jim Kirk, but they had never met before and evidently knew little about one another aside from their mutual existence.

[–] plasmoidal@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago

Just here to note two details I appreciated:

  1. La'an still doesn't know what a Romulan looks like after her adventure. The only one she met was surgically altered to look human, although Sera did drop a hint by complaining about the ears. Still, there's plenty of aliens with non-human ears, so not really much to go on.
  2. If she was paying attention, though, La'an did get another clue about Romulan physiology: When she shot Sera, the blood spray was green! Of course, Sera remembered her grandma's old recipe for molecular solvent, so La'an may have thought that was the reason for the coloration.