My wife and I picked an adult-only hotel for our honeymoon. It's fucking glorious. One of our fondest memories ever, and we cherish it even more now with third kid on her way to wreck havoc to our ears in a few short months.
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Sure kids get bullied, that's the default. But why add such a strong factor willingly? That's what I don't get. I can only imagine the fucking hate some of the parents would be spitting out and obviously their kids would take it to school. So that kid would not only get bullied for any of the reasons you mentioned, they'd have their parents sexual orientation added on top.
Also, that last argument doesn't hold up in Poland. There are more couples wanting to adopt than children up for adoption. My close friends, unable to conceive, waited for over three years. The only children in the system are those in a middle of s legal battle that cannot be adopted until that battle is resolved. So it's not "orphan" vs "adopted by a LGBTQ couple", it's adopted by a cishet couple vs LGBTQ couple, and the latter definitely would seem like getting the short straw given current social context.
There are no orphans up for adoption in Poland, you have to wait your turn in line to adopt because there are so many couples that can't have children. My close friends waited over 3 years. The only kids in the system are the ones who are in the middle of a legal fight and can't be adopted.
Knives don't have feelings. Would you willingly put your own child through bullying for a better cause but of very little direct benefit to themselves (most likely, theres a chance they'll be LGBTQ too of course)? I wouldn't, I don't think it's worth it to make a child a martyr.
How is it "instead"? Why do you want to use children as weapons in changing those mentalities? I personally value the well being of these children higher than the right to adopt for these couples.
(copying from another reply I made)
I believe legalizing marriage, normalizing LGBTQ couples' status first to prove the general society that they're not actually some sick perverted sickos before we allow children adoption, should be the first step. Also waiting for the old people to die out, to put it bluntly.
Keep in mind Poland is still a hugely conservative society, in full grasp of the Catholic church. It's changing, you can clearly see the trend, but on the other hand our current government is still actively painting LGBTQ+ as some sort of harmful ideology or what not. We have a long way to come.
I believe legalizing marriage, normalizing LGBTQ couples' status first to prove the general society that they're not actually some sick perverted sickos before we allow children adoption, should be the first step. Also waiting for the old people to die out, to put it bluntly.
Keep in mind Poland is still a hugely conservative society, in full grasp of the Catholic church. It's changing, you can clearly see the trend, but on the other hand our current government is still actively painting LGBTQ+ as some sort of harmful ideology or what not. We have a long way to come.
I am against a law allowing LGBTQ couples to adopt children in my country (Poland). I am not in any way against it as a general idea, but Polish society is full of full-on bigots and these kids would be subject to so much bullying, it's really against their best interest.
The argument a lot of people raise "if we start doing it then people will get used to it" doesn't work for me, because why should these children be victims of war that is not even theirs to fight? The whole thing makes me sick.
I've been downvoted for this opinion by both sides on Reddit.
Insulation from Nazi genocide, as if hundreds of thousands of Poles were not sent to Syberia and Katyń didn't happen. As if Soviets didn't collaborate with Nazis forming the Ribbentrop - Molotov pact. Soviets are perpetrators of WW2 in the same way Nazis are. It's just Stalin got backstabbed by Hitler the same way he stabbed Poland in the back in 1939.
I also wonder what exactly do you mean by Polish state being Holocaust collaborators? You do realize there was no Polish state under Nazi / Soviet occupation, except for the London one? How could it have collaborated in Holocaust?
People were right though, hexbear is just a Russian propaganda tube. I don't know if you people are paid to do this subhuman work or are you really believe in this alt history bullshit you're spreading, I feel sorry for you one way or the other.
Miss all on accounts my man. I'm Polish and we know full well what it means to live under Russian rule. We remember September 1939 backstab and 1944-45 campaign of bringing freedom by Soviets. My family on all imaginable sides has suffered significant loss from those. Time passes but Russian soldiers somehow behave the same, as proven by the current conflict. So maybe there's more to it than just "armed conscripts", I don't know what it is exactly, but I do fully associate that with Russians. Feel free to call me racist for that, comes out fairly funny given Poles and Russians are Slavs.
Oh and conscripts you say? Didn't Russians claim it's fully professional army back then? So maybe it's a matter of training. I also don't think what happened at Bucha can be attributed to actions of a few rogue conscripts, it had to come from a higher level of command.
Oh yeah totally, they don't need to fight Russia, they should just give up and let Russians do what they did in Bucha to the whole country. Of course Russians are known to peacefully incorporate conquered territories with no harm done whatsoever to civilians.
Some countries might not be worth fighting for, I guess that's true. Some other countries are always worth fighting against though, and Russia is one of them.
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Not OP, but same situation. I usually don't, but my mother who lives far from us does every day. We take a lot of photos and videos, she gets to watch them and she's up to speed on our kids' lives, can talk to them about stuff they did today, etc. We feel like it lets her be a part of their lives in a way.
Then you have that Google Photos feature where you get automatically created mini albums like "they grow up so fast" or "now vs then", it will compile a couple of photos from 7, 6, 5, ... Years ago and we watch those religiously, often coming back to the particular event from which some photo is. We can spend an entire evening going through older photos like that.