[-] ants_are_everywhere@mathstodon.xyz 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

@d0ntpan1c

So by your silence, do you concede that Anonym provides no privacy not already provided by Chrome and Safari? Why are you comparing it to Facebook pixels?

> Anonym isnt built into firefox, so idk why you’d think any of this has to do with other browsers.

Google ads is not built into Chrome either. And yet for some reason Chrome takes more and more control away from the user.

The only reason people use Firefox currently is that people used to trust Mozilla. If Mozilla decides to throw away that trust the obvious decision is for people to switch from #Mozilla #Firefox to a more mainstream browser like Chrome or Safari.

Since you can't name any reason Anonym is more private than Google Ads, people might as well go with a company that has vastly more expertise in cryptography and security.

> Web platform security isn’t about having an army of people.

Google physically secures data centers across the globe. Both they and Apple have world class expertise in cryptography and hardware, including discovering the family of speculative execution bugs that plague processors. They thoroughly understand the limitations of SGX and related technologies and have designed custom ways to mitigate them. They have world class cryptographers working at the edge of what's possible with things like homomorphic encryption and MPC.

Let's be realistic, Anonym is going to run on AWS, Azure, or Google Cloud. The security will be backed by one of the tech monopolies, and Anonym/Mozilla are now the weak point in the chain.

If I'm choosing between two implementations of the same ad spyware, why would I go with the upstart with less experience and who just did a 180 on their mission?

@d0ntpan1c @JubilantJaguar

what, concretely, do you believe they are offering that is less evil? Their proposed ad tech is no more private than Google's or Apple's.

And they can't afford the army Google and Apple employ to prevent data leaks.

What concrete parts of the Mozilla proposal do you believe is an improvement over Chrome and Safari?

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