PresidentCamacho

There is nothing to agree or disagree with here, I gave no opinion on spoiler effect, I explained 2 potential reasons why someone might vote third party.

Idk who your arguing with, I was showing a different point of view on why someone might vote third party, not sure why you're responding like such a dick.

It sounds like your interpretation of the spoiler effect centers on people voting third party due to dissatisfaction with the 2 unfortunately omnipresent parties, which would be the same as not voting. Have you considered that some people who were going to vote no matter what might vote for a third party candidate because their listed policies actually resonate with them?

We don't just give them free reign, for the most part the world promotes being selfish.

Damn near everything we ever hear takes no one else into account. Living wage is less and less common, billionaires have all the money in the world and zero accountability, healthcare (Mostly US specific) is an overpriced scam with no guardrails, food costs whatever the fuck the people who control it tell us it costs regardless of production costs, housing costs way too fucking much, fake news is more and more prevalent and conning more and more fools.

Its easy to see why people focus on no one but themselves anymore, its just the way of the world, toxicity is winning.

Real question: Most of things listed are consumer level changes. Isn't the large majority of global warming being caused by industry emissions?

If we stopped constantly arguing logic and reason to people that clearly have none, and focused on discussions of how we improve the country through governance and policy, we could actually convert some of them. But If i were to imagine life as a Trumper all I would see is hatred towards me everywhere, why the fuck would I listen to people insulting me?

Not that this would happen because at the end of the day, both sides of the aisles have their fair share of people whose political ideology is just to regurgitate what their own social circles reinforce while simultaneously be unable to withstand some minor pushback on topics and then confirming to the other that they dont know what theyre talking about. And the media will constantly put a megaphone up to this ignorant minority so the other side can confirm to themselves how dumb that side is.

Shit half the time I try to make the point that most people voting for trump are doing so because of their social circles influence on them, and that we should try and treat them with decency if we ever want to change their minds, and I get downvoted into the floor and hear a bunch of "centrist bad" nonsense. Political parties are just sports teams to many at the end of the day, they were raised to follow one and think the other one sucks, and most involved don't realize how brainwashed they are that they now see the other half of the country as a hostile foreign entity.

Meanwhile capitalists rob us all blind and continue to spread this narrative that we should fight each other, so we dont unite against them.

Hey good for you, unlike everyone else in this thread making up reasons why the tech is bad, you are mature enough to recognize the fear is from ignorance. I am in the same boat. I'm currently using a manager with MFA on everything which works well for me. Might look into this tech once it's baked longer. I don't like the idea of early adoption to a tech when it's security related.

Boomers are still alive, so literally all of the rules ever as fast as possible.

Special standout for "dont believe everything you read" - "Well fuck you Ill believe everything without thought"

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra!

Yeah! soy sauce isn't sweet! do it again but try sugar water this time you fuckin clowns!

So thats on me, I said "does nothing to change our two party system" when I should have said "does nothing to remove our two party system". All this does is concentrate power into the democrats which if they had no worry of winning elections would very quickly openly turn into the Billionaire Boot Licking Society overnight. We need more political parties.

All this being said I'm not arguing against removing the electoral college, it needs to die. But Americas problems run so much deeper than the GOP

And none of this happens until we ditch the two party system. Because the Dems will just continue to do the bare minimum to win elections while still serving the billionaire class.