this post was submitted on 24 Jul 2024
657 points (98.0% liked)

politics

19239 readers
3321 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 245 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (11 children)

He probably literally can't. Like MAYBE if his staff hangs around with a cattle prod and teleprompter maybe they can hide it for a while but dementia patients often can't retain new information, they circle back again and again to whatever knowledge/memories that were locked in before their deterioration stepped up to their current slope downwards.

I wouldn't be surprised it this is a huge part of why they're panicking so desperately. This is cataclysmic and I can't wait to watch it unfold

[–] falk1856@midwest.social 129 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Something tells me that if Biden, Hillary and Obama were to start stumping for Harris and the media covered it, Trump would have no idea who he was actually facing in the election. There's no way his handlers would be able to keep him focused.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 150 points 5 months ago (5 children)

It would be a pleasant alternate reality if some reporter who was doing an interview with Trump would start giving him a cognitive test live on air.

You wouldn’t have to make it formal. Just ask a few questions about Obama, get him talking about Obama’s policies, maybe the Iran nuclear deal. And then suddenly ask, “Who’s your opponent, Donald?” Soft and friendly like a serial killer. “Who are you running against in this election?”

“What year is it, Donald? What’s the day of the week?”

“Who’s this, Donald?” and put up a picture of Nikki Haley.

“What year did Covid happen, Donald? Can you remember?”

Give him lots of long silences to try to figure the answers out. Don’t interrupt, don’t distract him, don’t move on. Just let the dead air play out until he can’t stand it and says something. But if it’s not the answer… ask again. Tell him it’s okay if he doesn’t remember, but you want to give him another try.

Before you do it, set up his mic all tangled and firmly fastened, so if he tries to stand up and leave, he can’t get it off, and keep the camera running while he struggles. Keep asking questions while he’s trying to free himself. Politely and calmly, but don’t stop.

[–] Lupus@feddit.org 63 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A little off topic but I've been listening to the Alex Jones depositions on the knowledge fight podcast (highly recommend) and that was kinda similar. Not in a cognitive test way, but seeing his fish gallop technique running into a wall is so satisfying.

For example the plaintiffs lawyer asks a question, Jones uses that as a jumping off point for one of his famous nonsense rants and they just let him ramble for 2 minutes and then the lawyer answers in a very calm manner - "Mr. Jones, that was not my question, my question was ..." Repeatedly until they got a straight answer, "Mr Jones I have all day to get the answers I need."

Once or twice the lawyer even interrupted him with "Babababab! Please just answer my question!" Or "What are you even talking about?" Jones was so caught in his show persona that he stood no chance of avoiding to answer unpleasant questions.

His dad was way more in control of the court room, giving yes or no answers, keeping it short, like someone who listens to his lawyers should do.

The scariest dude in the depositions was one of his editors, a nice sounding guy, who hated Alex Jones, knew that what they were doing was harmful bullshit but continued to do it for years without caring about the impact. The mundanity of evil.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's "gish gallop". Don't forget to fix it after the inevitable autocorrect. If you just type "gish" a hundred times... then you'll never be able to write "fish" again.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lets be real, he'd walk out. A few years ago I heard an NPR interview with him not too long after Jan 6th and he clearly only took them up on it because he had been mostly de-platformed and was struggling to land interviews right then. He talked over the reporter then hung up. The entire thing was only about 6 minutes long

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 5 months ago

Yes, if he’s still capable of realizing he’s being played, he’ll either attack back or end it.

He’s doesn’t seem to have the quiet peaceful dementia (yet, maybe). He has the paranoid violent kind where he still likely knows he’s losing it much of the time.

I’ve had 2 different in-laws go through Alzheimer’s. One went from Mr. Rogers nice, to swearing and upset, especially when he lost control of some of his bodily functions. Thankfully Covid got him early in the pandemic and he didn’t have to suffer through starvation.

My MIL however was pleasant and calm, and eventually succumbed to dehydration when she forgot how to swallow. We need proper right to die laws in the US.

[–] PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Imagining this makes me so happy. This idea needs to spread so some reporter sees it and does it.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My favorite cognitive question ever is when I heard a paramedic ask a patient "Is Mickey Mouse a cat or a dog?"

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It would be hilarious if all three showed up at the debate location (if it even happens) to show support to Harris, I think the orange man would blue screen. :-D

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 61 points 5 months ago

It took him years to get over Clinton. He's got 4 months now, and Biden is still President so he's gonna have an even tougher time trying to keep it straight in his dementia-riddled mind.

[–] schema@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

It was also visible in the debate. They told him "whatever question comes up, bring up immigrants". If Trump had been forced to actually answer any of the questions, his dementia would have been much more obvious.

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (3 children)

...teleprompter....

Speaking of which:
Wasn't there something about Trump's wound being the result of a bullet-shattered teleprompter, not an actual bullet?

What became of that? Not to minimize the heinousness of the act, but he didn't take a bullet...

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It was speculated on, but it turns out that he was indeed hit with a bullet and the teleprompter wasn’t even damaged.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fact-check-hit-with-a-bullet-glass-from-teleprompter-did-not-injure-trump/ar-BB1qaE1H

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Thanks!
Now I can stop spreading misinfo through speculation!

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (7 replies)
[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 184 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Refusing to acknowledge reality is a common theme for maga.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 86 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also for those with dementia.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 58 points 5 months ago

Lot of overlap there.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They all cheered at the convention when someone said Obama is secretly still in control of the WhiteHouse.

The RNC is basically the party of conspiracy theories through and through.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 15 points 5 months ago

I'm remembering a trump tweet while he was in the white house complaining about the deep state doing something and all I could think is "You're the freaking president, you are the deepstate you bafoon!"

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 92 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This is so tiresome and annoying. His “bad” nickname for her is “smiling Kamala”. Really? That’s your big bad criticism?

I guess the unsmiling misery of the last 8 is supposed to be status quo now?

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago (4 children)

People will hear how he describes it and then see her and realize it isn't crazy at all, it's really friendly and welcoming. You can tell she's really excited and enthusiastic about the job she has ahead of her.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 86 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How soon until he refers to Harris as "Hillary" or his other nemesis "Nancy"?

[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Hell he might throw a Niki in there! This whole situation has taken me from being low key terrified to can't wait for what next.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 72 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Dementia Don the racist rapist with 34 felonies that complete a coherent sentence is once again showing he's too old to run our great country. He needs to step down, it's embarrassing.

[–] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Don't forget he likes to look at all the little bodies. Having been the owner of some miss USA pagents his time was always known as the creepy don days.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 71 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He's too senile to change tactics. I'm willing to bet half the reason he chose Vance was because they knew he was going to screw up and say Pence a bunch, and the similarity of pronunciation would give them plausible deniability.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 69 points 5 months ago (1 children)

“Tomorrow trump will wake up and forget biden even dropped out!” - dementia addled trump

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 49 points 5 months ago (4 children)

They also don’t know the difference between socialism and communism. His voters are morons.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Think of how stupid the average conservative is then remember half of them are stupider than that.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Loce@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago (4 children)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago

Good, good, keep running against the wrong guy. Your dumb cultists will stay enraged, as you like them, but those who are possible to actually reach might be turned off by it.

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Why would he? In his fantasy world, Biden is his easy opponent, he's perfectly innocent and not a convicted criminal at all, he is actually the smartest person alive, instead of just the smartest person he's ever been. Why would he join us in reality when his imaginary happy place that's shared by millions of FOX viewers is so much more attractive?

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

just the smartest person he's ever been

He's not even that. His brain is clearly deteriorating.

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Good luck trying to convince his brain that.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Trump would be crazy to try and debate her.

So, he probably will. Good times.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

No he won't. He's already doing a cop out saying he will only debate her if Fox hosts and moderates.. Which I believe is impossible since the agreed networks (one of them isn't Fox) have already been agreed

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 21 points 5 months ago

Fox is also an entertainment network, not a news network, as they themselves have claimed.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Sometimes, when people get older, they get a little confused. It happens. Donald, he's getting up there, and maybe he's just feeling a little confused again. Like that time he mixed up Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi.

Maybe he should drop out of the race, let someone a little younger and more aware take over.

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (9 children)

I wish they'd stop using pics of dementia donnie with the maxi pad on his ear. The less we are reminded about another Republican trying to take this clown out, the better.

load more comments (9 replies)
[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 25 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Step 1: Denial

How long before his old brain processes all the stages of grief?

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] DarkDecay@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

He so old, he must be confused

[–] bradinutah@thelemmy.club 23 points 5 months ago

Old Sleepy Don rambles incoherently about those competent presidents, Obama and Biden, even if they aren't running. We need a debate ASAP to see how Harris chews Old Don Poorleone up and spits him out.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Bitch too old, I’m not sure he has the cognition to grasp the new reality.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 months ago

Too demented to remember. Sad. Big sad

load more comments
view more: next ›