this post was submitted on 22 Jul 2024
144 points (98.0% liked)

the_dunk_tank

15914 readers
12 users here now

It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

Rule 1: All posts must include links to the subject matter, and no identifying information should be redacted.

Rule 2: If your source is a reactionary website, please use archive.is instead of linking directly.

Rule 3: No sectarianism.

Rule 4: TERF/SWERFs Not Welcome

Rule 5: No ableism of any kind (that includes stuff like libt*rd)

Rule 6: Do not post fellow hexbears.

Rule 7: Do not individually target other instances' admins or moderators.

Rule 8: The subject of a post cannot be low hanging fruit, that is comments/posts made by a private person that have low amount of upvotes/likes/views. Comments/Posts made on other instances that are accessible from hexbear are an exception to this. Posts that do not meet this requirement can be posted to !shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml

Rule 9: if you post ironic rage bait im going to make a personal visit to your house to make sure you never make this mistake again

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 84 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This reply in and of itself is a fantastic display of those political instincts

She's kinda done huh

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 60 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Once again reminding myself to believe in ideas and movements, not individuals.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ideas and movements are easy to coopt and twist and lie about and use opportunistically. Ideas and movements are not sufficient. I believe in organized and disciplined parties of the advanced section of the working class, of which America has none and that's why our "squad" never had a snowflakes chance in hell against the trillions of dollars of military funding and corporate donations. They were doomed from the very start, as are every single squishy left unorganized potato in a sack who tries to reform this place

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

your comment made me think about how the US security state sent out fake protestors with megaphones during the latter half of the summer of 2020 and would use the plants to corral the mass of unorganized protestors

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago (2 children)

the unique difficulty of organizing in America is that everyone here is libertarian brain-poisoned and completely individualist. They want to have the perfect politics and are on an individual quest for political redemption and perfection. We cannot win until we destroy that mindset and people begin to understand we need discipline, and hold collective interests above individual interests.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

"my incoherent mix of deranged opinions is what makes me so special and unique, and the people on TV agree with me so I must be right"

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have synthesized a never before tried perfect mix of left and right, socialism and capitalism!

That perfect synthesis: bog stand Liberalism

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"listen, I may have never read a book and I'm more than 150 years out of date in my conception of philosophical concepts, but here's this new idea I've come up with that nobody has ever thought of before."

EDIT: sorry I am feeling really pissed off

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think the idea and movement to move the Democratic party left is done. The individuals tasked and hired to do so have been nullified and co-opted by the forces they were supposed to resist.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There’s simply no way to do it without outright ousting the current leadership out of the party entirely, which is effectively ending it in all but name only.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

like what I imagine the feds did to CPUSA

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The problem is, the "democratic party" barely exists as an organization. It's a brand, a fundraising network, and a small informal network of insiders. None of which are possible or useful to "take over"

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

Especially in the USA, where individuals are either subsumed by the system or crushed under its heel

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As someone leftists could have a glimmer of hope about? Yeah, but that's been true for a while

In terms of climbing party ranks? Maybe, but the Dems are all about their losers

As a politician? Absolutely not

Her district is HEAVILY liberal, so unless she does something to offend her voters or the Democratic Party, she's gonna keep that seat until they scrape her corpse out like they did for Feinstein.

[–] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 81 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

i used to think this woman represented a socailist incursion into congress.

lol. turns out she's the type to deploy with USAID to a developing country on the eve of a coup, so you know, the opposite of socialist. ah well, nevertheless.

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 76 points 3 months ago (1 children)

AOC is doing what the unions wanted her to. Do you disagree?

Admittedly it's not totally clear why the unions wanted her to reply to this random account

[–] Spike@hexbear.net 57 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Admittedly it's not totally clear why the unions wanted her to reply to this random account

Power dynamics

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 71 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Damn at least have the shame to lay low for a minute.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 48 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also - is she replying to some rando?

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 38 points 3 months ago

Some Harvard teacher apparently

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 41 points 3 months ago (1 children)

FR this sort of petty slapfight is never a good look

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago

That would be those vaunted "political instincts" no one should ever bring up again

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 57 points 3 months ago (1 children)

no u

Amazing

Frame it, it belongs in a museum

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 41 points 3 months ago

"Pelosification of AOC" really struck a nerve, she probably went out for a drive in her Tesla to calm down

[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 55 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ok now I guess we have to be worried about AOC having dementia because her reply makes no sense.

[–] NapoleonBlownApart@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago (2 children)

geordi-no heart attack gun

geordi-yes dementia gun

[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago
[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

It's Havana Syndrome!

[–] 2812481591@hexbear.net 49 points 3 months ago

AOC when she goes to bat for Biden 1 ms before he gives up:

[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 38 points 3 months ago

jesse-wtf what does her fucking up have to do with him thinking?

[–] brainw0rms@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago

Well, that's embarrassing. Common "squad" L

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago

I'm not owned! I'm not owned!

[–] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago

had to have high high hopes for a minute pete

[–] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago

Anyone that even critically supported succdems should be fucking embarrassed rn.

I can't believe the fire-brand "left" are one of the few groups still going to bat for genocide Joe.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago

Well that's one objectively good thing to come out of this. Them showing their whole ass yet again. I hope by now that anyone who wants remotely good things to happen has disabused themselves of the idea that the "Squad" is worth anything at all

[–] Tychoxii@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago
[–] DesertComrade@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

Backing Biden this late this hard Proves that she is a good dog for the dnc Bernie is biden's friend so there is sentimentalality there But aoc is climbing the ladder

[–] Facky@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Is this about Biden dropping out?

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

AFAIK she did a livestream the other week where she fully backed biden and told people to stop demanding him to drop out

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago
[–] Egon@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

She will be the Hillary of the next gen

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I can't believe anyone couldn't see he was obviously going and the media was building up to it after watching the exact same thing happen to 3 british prime ministers in a row. The media circus was literally identical.

[–] NapoleonBlownApart@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I hope I don't have to put up with her for the rest of my life

load more comments
view more: next ›