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[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 84 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This reply in and of itself is a fantastic display of those political instincts

She's kinda done huh

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 60 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Once again reminding myself to believe in ideas and movements, not individuals.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ideas and movements are easy to coopt and twist and lie about and use opportunistically. Ideas and movements are not sufficient. I believe in organized and disciplined parties of the advanced section of the working class, of which America has none and that's why our "squad" never had a snowflakes chance in hell against the trillions of dollars of military funding and corporate donations. They were doomed from the very start, as are every single squishy left unorganized potato in a sack who tries to reform this place

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

your comment made me think about how the US security state sent out fake protestors with megaphones during the latter half of the summer of 2020 and would use the plants to corral the mass of unorganized protestors

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago (2 children)

the unique difficulty of organizing in America is that everyone here is libertarian brain-poisoned and completely individualist. They want to have the perfect politics and are on an individual quest for political redemption and perfection. We cannot win until we destroy that mindset and people begin to understand we need discipline, and hold collective interests above individual interests.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

"my incoherent mix of deranged opinions is what makes me so special and unique, and the people on TV agree with me so I must be right"

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have synthesized a never before tried perfect mix of left and right, socialism and capitalism!

That perfect synthesis: bog stand Liberalism

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"listen, I may have never read a book and I'm more than 150 years out of date in my conception of philosophical concepts, but here's this new idea I've come up with that nobody has ever thought of before."

EDIT: sorry I am feeling really pissed off

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think the idea and movement to move the Democratic party left is done. The individuals tasked and hired to do so have been nullified and co-opted by the forces they were supposed to resist.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There’s simply no way to do it without outright ousting the current leadership out of the party entirely, which is effectively ending it in all but name only.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

like what I imagine the feds did to CPUSA

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The problem is, the "democratic party" barely exists as an organization. It's a brand, a fundraising network, and a small informal network of insiders. None of which are possible or useful to "take over"

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah it’s become a party machine but with only the corrupted leadership elements, with the ward captains that have deep connections to their neighborhoods and ensuring everyone gets a turkey at Thanksgiving aspects removed. It really is just the brand and the baked-in “blue no matter who” voters that have any use.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

Especially in the USA, where individuals are either subsumed by the system or crushed under its heel

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As someone leftists could have a glimmer of hope about? Yeah, but that's been true for a while

In terms of climbing party ranks? Maybe, but the Dems are all about their losers

As a politician? Absolutely not

Her district is HEAVILY liberal, so unless she does something to offend her voters or the Democratic Party, she's gonna keep that seat until they scrape her corpse out like they did for Feinstein.