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[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They could just try not killing people.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not that I disagree with your statement, but tbh using nitrogen is way more humane than what they use now. While I believe the death penalty should be done away with (with exceptions for very extreme cases), I think switching to a more humane method of executing someone is better than nothing.

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

yeah. im fully against the death penalty but if were gonna do it lets make it as humane as possible. rather odd that alabama is leading in this though. especially with how inhumane the alabama prison system is overall.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

In full agreement. If the state is going to murder people, I'd rather it be in the least shitty way possible.

Still would rather the state not murder people

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honesty, this is going to be way way way more humane than lethal injection. I'd prefer the state not have the power to kill it's citizens but if they are going to, I want it to be painless

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Took the words out of my mouth.

I oppose the death penalty but if it's happening regardless, then at least let's be humane.

[–] Kalkaline@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't want anyone getting comfort from a less painful method. The death penalty should be abolished because the judicial system is flawed and the count the Innocence Project has of freeing people who have been wrongfully convicted. If the death penalty exists, I want it to give everyone who sees the execution PTSD, I want those deaths burned into their brain so they can't sleep at night until it's abolished.

[–] czarrie@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

If a guy is being executed wrongfully and he's certain there's no hope for escape, pretty sure he's not going to be excited by the idea of going through a painful hell as well just to prove a point.

[–] krellor@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm conflicted on this. I want the death penalty abolished, but also recognize that a more humane death lessens suffering.

What I don't want is humane methods of execution being used to further normalize the killing of citizens through a flawed and biased judicial system.

I hope these humans methods are adopted, and that people keep pushing for executions to be abolished.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my opinion, death penalty is never a solution. For many reasons, but one of the biggest ones being that countries with death penalty don't have less crime for which death penalty is punishment, implying it doesn't really work. Another reason being is that when government kills someone it's doing it in the name of all, making us all murderers. Perhaps the biggest reason is making sure person actually did it. Law is not about who's right but who argues best. Time and time again we've been proven this fact, especially when the rich are involved.

[–] Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also it costs a fuckton to prosecute and in many ways is any easy way out. What, you're giving the guy who shot 3 kids and then tried to shoot himself the death penalty?

Life in prison, where the food is just enough to not starve, the healthcare just enough to continue your suffering, where you're surrounded 24/7 by the worst of humanity is about as close to hell as we know exists. Just put people in there.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know it might be a fine line, but there's a difference between punishment and torture.

I'm not advocating torture bro, I'm describing prison. It's more hlthan adequate punishment.

[–] twisted28@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would rather the tax money, which would likely be in the millions, be spent on schools and bettering peoples life. Not the furtherance of misery. You want to torture someone. When a person has undoubtedly perpetrated terrible crimes, put them to sleep. Who gets their rocks off thinking about the suffering someone is gonna Go thru? Sick fucks

[–] howsetheraven@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The second one is literally the goal so I wouldn't hold your breath. Or do since it's nitrogen.

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great BBC documentary about this from years ago: https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/kill-human-being/

Definitely shows this is the most humane way to kill people if you needed to.

However the tldw is that the suffering and painfulness of executions are basically the point for many. These sick fucks see it as punishment. "A painless death would not be justice"

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Then we should skin them.

[–] toastus@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alabama, a state I wouldn't even want to fly over for the chance that the plane could crash and I might survive.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Believe it or not, even a shithole state like Alabama has a few things going for it. My mother spends her winters on Dauphin Island and it's not a haven for dumb rednecks. But I agree overall the state (like lot of US states) sucks.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wanted to make a Belle Delphine joke because I thought her name was Bella Dauphin but googling to come up with any info about her just came up with bathwater and the correct spelling of her name so clearly I don't know enough about her to make the joke.

[–] ZosoRocks3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's the thought that counts

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

And people say the US doesnt innovate anymore.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let him rot in prison.

ABOLISH CAPITAL PUNISHMENT!

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Instead of inventing new methods to kill people, has anyone ever thought of, well, just not killing them?

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a great guillotine replacement as well.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago

Gonna start telling rich people to breathe nitrogen

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

John oliver had good segments on both the Death Penalty: https://youtu.be/Kye2oX-b39E?si=188_2NV7K__9E6Dg

and the lethal injections

https://youtu.be/0lTczPEG8iI?si=AHumGWKnhdf1lvsn

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think we should start calling it what it is: secular human sacrifice.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

It’s Alabama. Are you sure about secular?

[–] TheCrawlingKingSnake@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They should try nitrous oxide instead. Might creep out the spectators tho when the dude goes out laughing.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 2 points 1 year ago

They could also use massive doses of morphine (or fentanyl these days), though they don’t because it’s too pleasant a way to go. If they’ve sentenced someone to death, presumably for some heinous crime, they don’t want to put them down like a beloved elderly Labrador.