Me waiting for Olive to become stable:
this post was submitted on 26 Aug 2023
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What's olive? Can't find it anywhere.
This Olive: https://olivevideoeditor.org
It's really ambitious, it tries to rival DaVinci Resolve with its node system, I already appreciate it a lot for its performance, though it might be lacking in some features for now.
One of them was masking, one time I even used Blender for a project (that I never completed), because its masking feature is just better and stabler, trying to animate the nodes of mask paths in Olive completely crashed it. It was some time ago now, though, so it might already be fixed.
Still, Blender is kinda underrated as a video editor, it's very capable and it's incredibly stable, I think I experienced max 1 or 2 crashes if any, while Kdenlive has always been pretty crashy for me, it also doesn't get enough love from the devs, there's so much potential in integrating the 3D viewport into the VSE, ahh if only...
Aaand now this turned into a Blender ad for some reason, lmao
I used Blender as a video editor for a while. It worked really well. Very stable and the proxy system made editing on a low powered machine really nimble. I remember there was some project that offered a Blender setup geared specifically towards video editing. Can’t recall the name though. The Blender Velvets?!? That doesn’t sound right …
I also tried Olive many years back and thought it looked great but just wasn’t ready to push out ShotCut and KdenLive from my workflow. Glad they’re still working on it.
Thanks, I'll check it out
Does anyone know how to donate to olive? I can't find it anywhere
I would switch if it had multiline text without those annoying tittles
Heh, you said tittles.
Yeah, I get that. It's quite annoying, but I haven't had any other problems than that
Personally I use the free version of Devinci Resolve. Have you used both and how do they compare?
I wouldn't mind using it, but the lack of H264 support on linux really kills that idea
Of course I could export every clip to a different format, but that would require me to** export every clip to a different format** and I'm lazy.
Yeah, I liked DaVinci Resolve but that's the sole reason that killed it for me too. I ended up paying $80 for Lightworks when it went on sale, and I love it. It just works.
Kdenlive wasn't quite there for me personally yet in terms of workflow the last time I tried it. I keep checking in on it though, because I know it will get there.
I used Lightworks like 6 years back, has it improved since then? I liked it, but the 720p export limit was a bummer
The free version can still only export 720p, but the "Create license" that I bought on sale exports 4k. I'm not sure on how it differs from 6 years ago, I just started using it like 6 months ago so I can't answer that for you. You could try the free version just to see how it works, and if you think you might like to use it and it's worth paying, wait for a sale on it. I wouldn't have paid the standard price of $160 but for $80 it was worth it to me instead of having to transcode everything before editing.
I will say though, that before Lightworks I used Davinci Resolve and the transition was absolutely seamless. That might be different if you're doing more advanced editing, not sure. I don't do any advanced video editing, very basic things, and I'm learning as I go, so take that into consideration.
The alternatives that I considered were using DR in Windows, but I just can not stand the workflows of Windows. I feel like I'm wading through 3ft of shit whenever I have to use it for something. Or using something like Kdenlive, but felt that wasn't quite as refined as either DR or Lightworks just yet, but I'm sure it will be eventually.
State when was the last time you tried couz. Mf be saying "last time I tried x" and it turns out it was 5 years ago. FOSS development and new technologies are at its all time high and it won't stop increasing
I hear you, I see that happen all the time with peoples outdated opinions on Linux. I tried 6 months ago, I was already using Davinci Resolve then tried the FOSS options, then tried Lightworks and decided to pay for Lightworks.
What? x264 is h.264 encoder, it ships with ffmpeg
Last time I tried the Linux version of Resolve, it wouldn't start up due to it being incompatible with the default AMD drivers. This was years ago, so maybe it works now.
How stable is it now? I never felt quite comfortable enough to do more elaborate projects with it.
It's definitely stable enough for doing "real work" on, though the lack of GPU accelerated timeline playback can make some more complex projects a little difficult. I've used it for proper work plenty of times over the years (I survived the Covid lockdowns entirely with paid video editing from home, on Kdenlive, as my normal work was unavailable).
I still frequently save manually with a new filename, due to old version paranoia, but if I'm honest, it's own "it saves every click in an ongoing temp file" sort of thing works great. You lose 2 seconds of work, then restart and restore.
Basic edits are likely to have no crashes at all, wheras ones where you, for example, pan and zoom with keyframes, then speed up, then reverse the footage, then try to re-edit the pan and zoom, might get its keyframes in a twist and crash frequently.
I've heard the Windows version is less stable.
GPU acceleration is not a problem of playback, but how playback works
Sounds better than my last experience with it, maybe I'll try it again. But still, not 100% confidence inspiring
What happened with shotcut?
At least for me, shotcut is really unstable, they're removing features that I liked, old versions that worked previously are buggy ... at least for me, it was a bad experience overall. Hadn't had any of these problems with Kdenlive, so i switched
Do you use native distribution packages or Flatpak? Distributions packaging applications with changed dependencies from when the developer made that version can cause instability. That's one of the reasons I'm advocating that developers maintain their own Flatpak releases.
I tried a few FOSS NLEs and Kdenlive is my favorite. The native one from the Arch repos at least. I know the flatpak or AppImage versions can be problematic sometimes especially when you throw some weird files at it.
Yeah, I've never been a huge fan of Flatpaks, AppImages, Snaps etc., especially when it comes to interacting with the storage.
I just like to have the binary sitting in my binary folder, at least for "media creation" programs.
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Know any good plugins to improve it btw?
Personally I don't, it's been a while and my usage was never too professional. A quick web search doesn't seem to show anything, though that's probably due to the video editor's obscurity.
One, my sweet Olive. One day it will be your time to shine.
I took a look at it, and it does look really promising! I'm excited to see how it's gonna turn out
I use both, because shortcut can make the video shake to the beat of musik
Wow really? What filter is this?
It's a nice feature, but i don't think it looks THAT nice
for memes its a usefull effect sometimes
exactly my experience
Kernel panics because it wants too 🫥