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[–] Jho@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm a vegetarian.

I was, and still am, surprised by how often people will go into a long rant justifying why they eat meat to me as soon as they find out I'm vegetarian. All the while I'm just sat there, not saying anything, because I literally do not care whether or not they eat meat.

Me being a vegetarian is a personal choice for me and myself only. You do you. I don't care. You don't need to explain yourself to me. It makes me feel so awkward.

People will often ask me why I'm a vegetarian too. But it feels like a very personal and heavy question to ask someone immediately after finding out they're vegetarian... I don't especially want to talk about animals dying all the time and how it makes me sad especially to strangers.

Edit/Addition: It feels like a lot of focus is brought on how vegetarians/vegans force their views onto other people but my experience personally is non-vegetarians/vegans trying to force me into conversations about this topic.

[–] jargoggles@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

There are a lot of people who take it personally when confronted with the idea that someone else is making an ethical choice that they, themselves, are not. When they hear someone say "I made this personal choice," their ego warps it into "I made this personal choice and if you don't, you're a bad person."

It's simply low empathy behavior. They struggle to contextualize other people's thoughts and decisions outside of their own personal experience and beliefs.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hate that this used to be me.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

:)

It's especially ironic considering I've gone vegan this year.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Personal growth++

[–] mister155@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Good for you. Although your choice doesn't befit me, I understand and respect your decision as long as you also respect mine.

It is sad some people need to belittle others over stuff that literally doesn't even personally affect them. I mean, unless they're the cook, I guess.

[–] candyman337@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

While the initial reasoning is respectable, veganism is t without it's flaws, several plants are not ethically sourced and either cause a lot of pollution, destroy habitats to be grown, or are grown via slavery, or a combo of all 3. The real issue is the systems that are in place across the food industry, plant and animal based.

[–] Galven@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It's not them not eating meat that I have a problem with(even though it's not healthy), it's the self-righteousness of it.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I think veganism is useless. However, I'm not going to argue

[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Voting >>>> Personal energy usage [Using public transit instead of driving, Electric heating, efficient buildings, etc] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Non energy lifestyle choices.

[–] hugz@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

You can vote and make personal lifestyle/dietary sacrifices. It's not mutually exclusive

[–] P00P_L0LE@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, voting won't save us, not while the interests of oil barons supercede the interests of humanity as a whole.

Biden Administration Approves Huge Alaska Oil Project - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/12/climate/biden-willow-arctic-drilling-restrictions.html

Biden administration moves ahead with massive Gulf of Mexico drilling ... - CNN https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/03/29/politics/gulf-of-mexico-drilling-lease-sale-biden-climate/index.html

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is just voting enough on its own, no, but giving up and not voting or voting for worse candidates can make us go from bad to terrible. Every fraction of a degree of warming matters here

[–] P00P_L0LE@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yes, absolutely, but when both of the choices you're presented with are equally disastrous for the environment, there's nothing you can realistically do by just voting. The superstructure that stands in the way of real, actual change needs to be destroyed.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It matters much more than you might think. The emissions from the meat, dairy, etc. industry on their own are enough to make us miss climate targets.

To have any hope of meeting the central goal of the Paris Agreement, which is to limit global warming to 2°C or less, our carbon emissions must be reduced considerably, including those coming from agriculture. Clark et al. show that even if fossil fuel emissions were eliminated immediately, emissions from the global food system alone would make it impossible to limit warming to 1.5°C and difficult even to realize the 2°C target. Thus, major changes in how food is produced are needed if we want to meet the goals of the Paris Agreement.

(emphasis mine)

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aba7357

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