This is based as far as I can tell.
It's a bummer how killing strangers for your government is glorified.
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It's a bummer how killing strangers for your government is glorified.
It's definitely more palatable when the strangers you're killing are nazis
But the story in the greentext takes place in 1932, before the Nazis even got into power in Germany.
I can agree that there's been an extremely minuscule amount of justifiable war in an endless number of wars.
except they mostly weren't
Tribalism. Our tribe is good, their tribe is bad. If you are not with your tribe, you are a traitor, so people are pressurized into this, and start believing lies about our glorious pride and wise leaders.
Probably a cooler picture than Stanhope appreciates, but:
It's a bummer how killing strangers for your government is glorified.
Killing for yourself: Government will track you down, kick your door in and throw you in prison and maybe send you into the death row.
Killing for your government: Government will provide training, shelter, equipment, pay you and award you medals.
Killing for your government: Government will track you down, kick your door in and throw you in prison for refusing to.
Fixed thar for you :P
Do not forget about right to rape and steal dishwashers on your government enemy territory!
Based. Put the people who declared the war on the frontline.
That's often the case when it's a battle over shit like oil but for instance when Germany attacked Poland, it's the Poles' primary responsibility to fight for what is theirs. "Let the people who declared war be on the front line" okay well in this example that's Germany and you're going to lose everything your family ever worked for.
*if you and your family own stuff. Which is not the case for most working class people. The same working class getting shoved to the front lines.
Get out with this class essentialism.
Going from prole renting a shitty apartment who barely owns a car and a washing machine, to forcibly deported or forced to renounce your culture and teach your children the invader's language and culture is not "potato, potato".
Sometimes there are other things to fight for than capital, even if this might sound like a foreign concept to Westerners whose country hasn't been directly involved in a meaningful non-imperialist conflict since 1945.
Wars are always about profit of one or more sides. Abolish all governments and you will have no problem with nationalistic ocupation lol.
Right, I have abolished my government but the other guys have not. Now what?
War is for pussies
Real men talk out their problems without violence
Sometimes war is brought to your door.
Recent ones: Gaza. Ukraine.
Yeah
Started by fucking pussies
Defense isn't war.
War masquerading as defense is for fucking pussies
Because that worked out so well in this exact case, Neville Chamberlain?
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You turn the corner to see a skinhead beating your dad with a baseball bat. You have a gun. Walk us through your next moves.
It depends entirely on what country Anon's grandfather was from.
it's likely you're here because he hid...
I'm going to go with based. I would not have wanted to be a conscript with the rank of private in any army at this time period. You'll be badly treated disposable cannon fodder and you'll be stuck in that situation until the war ends, until you get taken prisoner, until you desert, or until you died.
How old was the daughter?
And how did he get her pregnant without being seen?
Did her from behind, of course
What country was drafting in 1932? No major war effort going on anywhere at the time afaik.
Idk about drafts but some conflicts in that period:
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French-IndoChina vs Siam
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Saya San Rebellion
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Sino-Tibetan War
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Kumul Rebellion
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Idrisid Emirate Rebellion
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Najran conflict
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Uukwambi uprising
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Annexation of Jimma
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Chechen uprising of 1932
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Two-Liu War
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Kirghiz rebellion
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La Matanza
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January 28 incident (China v Japan)
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Darre Khel revolt
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Soviet–Japanese border conflicts
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1932 armed uprising in Mongolia
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Lesko uprising
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Constitutionalist Revolution of Brazil
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Ecuadorian Civil War of 1932
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Sanjurjada
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Colombia–Peru War
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Chaco War
And technically the Emus vs Australia. This list has not been vetted by a professional nor is it a complete or exhaustive list.
Can be pussy and based. And based on the world war death tolls, there's a very high chance OP would never have been born otherwise
this says it was 1932
Indeed, is there more you want to comment? Or is there more you would like to know about the 1930s in Europe? Now I understand that I am taking a liberty with the assumption that OP is referring to European heritage, but I could direct you to a book or two to expand your knowledge of history
Honest question, but where in 1932? Asia sure, but Europe?
There were massive buildup of standing armies. Particularly France with their mobilization to construct and man the Maginot Line. Germany and England began reconstructions of huge and modernized navys. Italy was full throttle Fascism around this time. And yes, Japan was moving some serious weight into China
Thank you, that helps. Was conscription going on outside of Japan at the time?
Yeah. Again you have huge build ups in the Royal Italian Army, The Red Army, The French Army, the British Navy, The German Navy... Those are just off the top of my head. There is so, so much info on the interwar period. Historians are constantly looking at that time frame because it is immediately after the second industrial revolution, during a global depression, the first major attempt at world government... Incredible leaps in medical, aviation, industry,.. this terrifying rise of Fascism/nationalism with some really horrific pseudoscience beliefs attached. Pick a geographic area and just search "x area 1930s"
okay, sure. which country was fighting a World War in 1932 *edit - come on, why did everybody get so quiet
Where does it say world war? I only see war in my country.
I think you should consider the build up of armies/navys on the 30s. Also some pretty quick runs into Fascism. Red army was taking tons of people for the meat grinder
compulsory military service when you're not in a time of war rarely exceeds 2 years. I haven't looked into it, were people who were drafted in Russia in 1932 still serving in 1939?
It depends on the war we are talking about I guess?
The only war I would participate without question would be if my country (EU) was invaded.
Absolute based in any other scenario.
country
EU
Yes, my country is EU. My State is France.
I’m European before being French and I don’t care if it confuses people.
Well, ok that's preferences
My grandfather did the exact same thing. But he was in conquered France and did it to avoid being drafted by the Nazis.
Edit: There were also a stories of other people in the village finding other ways to avoid the Nazi draft. One of them pretended to be deaf and managed to avoid falling for a few tricks the Germans played on him in an attempt to expose him, such as dropping a coin behind his back. Another one reported to the draft medical examination after purposefully biking over an insanely long distance. When he arrived he was completely exhausted and the doctor deemed him too anemic for military service. All of those in the village who couldn't dodge the draft were sent as cannon fodder on the eastern front and never returned, except for one "lucky" individual who lost a leg.
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