This is really only a raid, Ukraine has no ability to supply troops by sea, nor the ability to even land enough troops to hold territory.
But the fact that they did this means that Russian "rear" area security is absolute shit, and they have the option to improve that (taking forces from reserves or the fromt) or suffer more rear area raids.
Yeah, this kind of thing is usually done for propaganda value. It’s encouraging for your side to see that you can pull it off, and it is discouraging for their side to see that they have porous defense behind them. It’s rarely fun to have violent enemy action in your rear. The Doolittle Raid was a prime example of this kind of thing.
Although I understand the reasoning, it’s unfortunate that political agreements are forcing the Ukrainians to fight with one hand tied behind their backs.
The Doolittle raid is the perfect example of a PR move, because it was insanely expensive and did very little. It cost 16 planes and their crews, and took very expensive ships out of the running for months. BUT despite doing basically no damage, made Japan bring 2 carriers away from Midway to take a couple of tiny islands to prevent bomber bases being built on them.
As far as we know, this basically took some RHIBs and troops on foot. Way less than the Doolittle Raid. Unfortunately it's likely we'll never know the effect this had, or how many of these raids take place.
political agreements are forcing the Ukrainians to fight with one hand tied behind their backs
Could you elaborate?
Western powers supplying Ukraine don't really want to see Ukraine deep striking Russian territory for fear of Russia claiming the West is invading russia, so many of the aid being given to Ukraine has been shorter range equipment. Additionally, Ukraine has been very wary of pushing into Russian territory for the same reason, and therefore can't really put pressure on Russian forces to move troops away from Ukrainian occupied territory. This leaves Ukraine with, for the most part, only the strategic ability to play pickup on what Russia has already captured, which is easier for Russia to plan for
The other poster summarized exactly what I meant. We are generally not supplying them with weapons systems that can strike deep into Russian territory. I believe Moscow is well with range of a Tomahawk, and missile attacks against a civilian-populated city is a genie that’s already out of the bottle.
I believe the agreement is that the Ukrainians will not use ally-sourced weapon systems inside Russia, and they obviously have to agree. This relegates them to fighting a war of attrition against an enemy that can attack their infrastructure and civilian population at will.
But all the tankies say that Ukraine is losing ground?
This is a tactical retreat. Once the retreat is done, you'll see that while Russia has given up physical land, they'll have taken digital ownership of it via the smash-hit mobile game Atlas Earth, meaning Ukraine occupies the space, but Russia earns passive income from digital ownership.
Checkmate you dirty capitalist.
Russia will maintain digital NFT ownership of Crimea.
Russia will soon launch a fierceful counterattack utilizing copyright claims and cease-and-desist letters.
Just wait until they run out of turns, though
They're building up to a killer golden age
Ukraine has lost so much ground and retreated so far West that by this time next year the UA will be entering Vladivostok.
Special forces landed on the western shore of Crimea, near the settlements of Olenivka and Mayak, in a joint operation with the country’s Navy, according to Ukrainian Defense Intelligence.
I hope Russia doesn't read CNN.
If you get your military Intel from CNN you have already lost.
The article mentions confrontation with Russian forces in Crimea, so nothing that can't be shared at this point.
Is it safe to assume Putin knows what's going on at the front?
That is actually somewhat debatable I guess. Someone in the military knows but does the truth survive the long, long chain of command until it reaches Putin?
Grue (sp?) meme:
Panel 1: Boss invades Ukraine because reports said our military is 2nd best in world
Panel 2: Is not going so well because reports were lies and boss is shoot the messenger kind of guy.
Panel 3: We make plan of just lie. Boss is too paranoid to leave bunker except to flee to different bunker, so will never know truth.
Panel 4: Bunker gets CNN.
Grue (sp?)
The Despicable Me character in that meme is "Gru."
"Grue" is the monster in Zork that is likely to eat you if you linger in complete darkness. (Or reply to you if you ask questions about how to spell it.)
I don't care what anyone else is saying, I think you're a good monster, Grue. Happy hunting!
Heh I wonder if he would then convince himself that he would never be fooled by lying generals and that instead it is the evil West that is lying. Digging his hole even deeper.
I assume if it's being reported then it's because Russia knows already
Between this and Pringles yesterday, NCD is going to be going bonkers
Pringles lmao. Guess he hit the can, rest in piss.
I've always called him Pirogi, but now I understand what an insult to that awesome food it is. Pringles it will be from here on.
Well, I always thought he looked like a potato. I think you can’t go wrong with either name.
Impressive if they can get a stronghold there.
They have already left.
It was a hit and run thing.
Wooow that’s something !
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