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[–] ATQ@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Higher Ed in red states is at risk. Of course, that’s the outcome that red states vote for. Oh no! It’s the completely predictable consequences of our very own actions!

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

West Virginia was a reliable blue state until the 2000 election. Maybe if democrats focused on helping workers instead of bourgeois scum, they wouldn’t constantly be terrified (or even at risk) of losing elections?

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m fine with red states basically being the dumb manual labor slaves the US has always wanted.

“Made in Oklahoma by children labor”

Works for my blue-state-ass.

VOTE!!

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Slavery is okay as long as it takes place out of sight and materially benefits me!” — liberals

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hexbears need to be sure to explain “liberals” don’t mean left-wing, as it is commonly (and inaccurately) understood.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Left-wing” is pretty vague. I’ve seen people say things like “now I’m as leftwing as they come, which is why I support sending tens of billions of dollars to Ukrainian Nazis! Slava Ukraini!” Under the capitalist mode of production, there are communists, liberals, and fascists. That’s pretty much it.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s a pretty narrow minded.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really. You either support capitalism or you don’t. And if you do support it, you’re either comfortable with its nastier aspects (genocide, slavery, the annihilation of the human species via climate change), as fascists are, or you find those aspects uncomfortable, as liberals do, though they aren’t an issue for you if they’re kept out of sight. Is there some other group I’m missing here?

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don’t like capitalism, but I’m not a communist. 🤷‍♂️ I must not exist.

[–] Sinonatrix@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm going to have to ask you to place your dot on one of four quadrants so I can hurry up and assume everything else you've got to say

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I feel like a pre-trans person when asked to check [ ] male. [ ] female.

I guess my options today are:

A. Poor because I tell myself I’m a communist

B. Poor because the rich are taking my wages through over taxation and artificially increased prices

C. Poor because the rich have told me I’m poor.

Man, fuck that world 🤪

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have a plan for destroying capitalism?

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What actions have you taken that have had a measurable impact on destroying capitalism that I can verify?

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why would I want to destroy communism? It doesn’t really exist outside of a few extremely isolated communities. I’m trying to make it a global thing!

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry I meant to type capitalism, edited.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, okay, capitalism. I can’t doxx myself because that’s fed shit, but the thousands of comments I’ve made on this subject on hexbear should strongly suggest that I am quite dedicated to the destruction of capitalism. Do you even believe that destroying capitalism is possible or desirable?

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, can’t tell ya all the people I’ve killed, cause that’s fed shit. 🙄 Real convincing.

Do I think it’s possible to destroy capitalism entirely? No. People don’t give up power and property. Also, humans are greedy and corrupt—but that’s a different topic.

Do I think we can get to the point where there is significantly less suffering and class gap? I think it’s possible.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, then you are a liberal 😉

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] duderium@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (12 children)

You can disguise your actual identity with whatever words you like, but excusing capitalism is liberalism.

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[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Liberals already make it very clear that they aren't left wing, do you think barely-regulated capitalism is a left wing position? Do you think constant warmongering is a left wing position? They're garbage at actually doing anything concrete besides spending money on weapons.

Sounds like you like cheering for blue team though.

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[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We are going through a demographic transition, a pinch in the hourglass. It will be temporary but painful, and the other side of the pinch might not be as big as it once was. Our population is aging.

It’s kind of crazy that our research apparatus is tied to how many students happen to be enrolling. World class universities is what makes the US economy so strong. From the tech to the biomedical industries, it’s not “the free market” that has boosted the economy, but being leaders in publicly available government funded research.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Yup. R&D is a matter of national security, too.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While I agree, the cuts need to happen and they need to be purely targeted at administration which exploded over the boom years.

We had massive growth and very little of that revenue made it to either research or actual teaching.

Fire the admin staff from education and healthcare, we need to make those sectors work again.

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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The economics aren't really that tied. A lot of universities have research arms that are not tied to their undergraduate population. It might need a graduate student population to oppress, but undergrads are rather worthless.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Undergrads are the revenue generating portion of the university

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really. Universities make a lot of money off research and the research helps more with prestige ratings.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I finished my PhD in 2016. Since then I have shifted to industry, a move largely prompted by seeing the absolute shit state of academia at the moment (in the US).

It's no longer a meritocracy. It's all about who you know (or who you don't), and in that sense, it's no different from industry. But salaries are looking inflated given the differential between industry and academic workloads. It's only a matter of time for academic institutions to enshittify as if they were private-sector entities, because most are effectively run like private-sector entities at this point.

I did my graduate work at a top-tier public university in the US. Most of its funding is now from ridiculous tuition rates and other ways to nickel and dime its students. Its administrators make money like a private c-suite.

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[–] hexi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Colleges act like Scientology in the states. Equating education with how much money you've handed them.

Meanwhile anything can be learned online, but it counts for nothing because corporations treat purchases credentials as the only legitimate form of "education".

[–] jim@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ah yes, I'm sure the formal training received by doctors, nurses, lawyers, teachers, and engineers is just an over-hyped "education" that can all be replaced by online MOOCs.

There are real problems with education, especially with the costs, but "anything can be learned online" is the worst take I've heard in a long while.

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[–] Cyberwitch_7493@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly, I think higher ed is more at risk because the people on the top keep skimming for more funds, leaving everyone below struggling. Pay your faculty, staff, and working students (grads and undergrads) well.

[–] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Very few faculty and staff make high salaries. But the facilities costs are insane. Universities could do just fine without building another $50 Million dollar building. Growth for the sake of growth needs to stop. If that happens, then suddenly tuition costs would be under control.

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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but the pain isn't going to be universal. For profit universities aren't doing well already and I expect them to do worse over time. I expect a lot of non-profit private liberal arts universities to go bankrupt unless they turn into foreign student visa centers. There will probably be some consolidation of public universities, but nothing really bad.

I expect college to get a lot cheaper as the available student pool doesn't recover from the millennial echo boom.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

I expect college to get a lot cheaper as the available student pool doesn't recover from the millennial echo boom.

“The market will self-correct,” I tell myself, despite all evidence to the contrary (the total lack of an incentive for monopoly capital to lower prices in a bourgeois dictatorship). “The market will self-correct. The market cannot fail us. Only we can fail the market.”

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