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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 195 points 1 year ago (9 children)

We’re also the only country in the developed world without socialized medicine.

[–] mestari@lemmy.world 119 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

On top of that Americans pay more healthcare related income taxes than anyone else! Those could well be used to cover the expenses of a socialized system. It's absolutely amazing that people think they don't need it.

[–] aeternum@kbin.social 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the US actually pays about double at $9K per capita.Most of the rest of the cdeveloped countries pay about $3-4K per capita for healthcare.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This sounds way more important than people wearing different clothing than you'd expect reading to children in a library, but you guys know best.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just so it's very clear how ridiculous the situation truly is.

The US government pays per capita about double what other developed countries do for healthcare AND Americans still need to pay for private insurance over that, which on average is also more than what other countries spend per capita for the same services...

Even with all that money spent, life expectancy in the USA is closer to some Latin American countries than it is to Canada's and infant mortality is the highest of all Occidental rich countries and is pretty much equal to China's.

[–] dammitBobby@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

UnitedHealth Group - $88 billion in profit last year.

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[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 28 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The amount of propaganda US citizens are exposed to would make any totalitarian regime in history proud. And then people will go on about how CNN is somehow "left wing".

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[–] burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We do have socialized medicine. We socialize the research and innovations and give it to corporations and insurance companies for them to have profits.

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[–] Geek_King@lemmy.world 131 points 1 year ago (43 children)

Yep, and given my experience talking with other US citizens about universal healthcare, they'll argue how it's some how a bad thing. It's just a reoccurring thing, people seem to be programmed to hate stuff that'd help them.

[–] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fox News is a helluva propaganda tool

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[–] CoolSouthpaw@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus. In so many ways, the USA really is a shithole country, fuck our lives smh.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Our government is corrupt to the core. If you ain't rich, fuck you.

[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Let's see $1 million medical bills, no health insurance, no paid medical leave, no consumer protection laws, trans genocide attempts, corporations are "people," a minimum wage of $7.25 and much more.

Is it rich for like three people?

[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 18 points 1 year ago

They said "rich country", not "a country of rich people".

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[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 74 points 1 year ago

Why, you ask?

Because the system is corrupt by design. Politicians rely on legal bribes to stay in power and enrich themselves and the people and corporations who oppose treating workers fairly are the ones with the deepest pockets.

[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Iran and North Korea have maternity leave. Let that sink in for you.

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 55 points 1 year ago

Not only that. The US is also known as the No Vacation Nation.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

And they wonder why millenials don't have kids....

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 year ago

The no vacation nation.

A truly inhuman capitalist nightmare of a country.

[–] NoRezervationz@lemmy.website 35 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Still don't have a decent healthcare system either. So yeah, that tracks.

[–] couragethebravedog@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still don't require paying a living wage either. So yeah, that tracks.

[–] NoRezervationz@lemmy.website 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But hey, we're #1 in school shootings and military spending!

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[–] solstice@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The firm I was with about a decade ago or so made a big deal when they rolled out some of their new benefits.

One benefit was parental leave, and they were real proud and happy to offer a whopping TEN DAYS paternal leave for new fathers. Ten lousy days.

And the worst part is they didn't even have to do that much.

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[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 31 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Is the US still considered first world, or has it been recategorize as second world yet?

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[–] clutch@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

In a way the US will always attract immigrants - qualified or not - and they will make up for lost local fertility. So it kinda makes sense the US does not care for its own people

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

rich ≠ socially and culturally developed ...

[–] blaq_stoo@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My job offers it but I wasn't allowed to take it because I hadn't worked there for a year yet. I was graciously (/s) allowed to put myself negative on PTO, but only one week.

[–] exi@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Holy shit one week? How is anyone supposed to recover after something like a C-section? My wife needed nearly a month afterwards to be able to walk normally again...

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[–] STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Life Pro Tip for Americans: If you can save up for a plane ticket and go to another country. Europe would be my recommendation. It amazes me that there isn't a mass exodus going on in the US. I don't understand why anyone would possibly choose to live there tbh.

[–] drudoo@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Good luck getting visas and residence permits.

I (Danish) am married to an American and it was easier for me to get a US green card, than for her to get a residence permit in Denmark. After living some time in the US we decided to move to Denmark and while it’s great to live here, it was a freaking painstaking process to get her a permit.

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[–] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

As if “europe” just hands out working visas to americans

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Europe isn't a country and it's not always easy to just move to another country. You have to actually be desirable to have in the country to even be considered.

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[–] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 year ago (16 children)

As a European, I would make 3-4x in my job if I was American. Of course somethings would be more expensive (education, healthcare, housing). Personally I would be better in states. I would still not want my county to change to states, because that inequality is not good for the whole country.

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[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Welcome to the American nightmare.

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