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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 195 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We’re also the only country in the developed world without socialized medicine.

[–] mestari@lemmy.world 119 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

On top of that Americans pay more healthcare related income taxes than anyone else! Those could well be used to cover the expenses of a socialized system. It's absolutely amazing that people think they don't need it.

[–] aeternum@kbin.social 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the US actually pays about double at $9K per capita.Most of the rest of the cdeveloped countries pay about $3-4K per capita for healthcare.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This sounds way more important than people wearing different clothing than you'd expect reading to children in a library, but you guys know best.

[–] Imotali@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

The drag story hour thing (and pretty much all other culture wars) are designed to keep people outraged at the people trying to fix the country so that the few at the top can continue to other the one's trying to fix the problems. Cause enough outrage to your political rivals trying to end your honey pot. Keeps the ones who fall for it from seeing past the curtain and the ones you target from being trusted/gaining momentum.

It's funny.... I could've sworn I remember a guy from Austria doing something really similar sometime around 1937.....

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just so it's very clear how ridiculous the situation truly is.

The US government pays per capita about double what other developed countries do for healthcare AND Americans still need to pay for private insurance over that, which on average is also more than what other countries spend per capita for the same services...

Even with all that money spent, life expectancy in the USA is closer to some Latin American countries than it is to Canada's and infant mortality is the highest of all Occidental rich countries and is pretty much equal to China's.

[–] dammitBobby@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

UnitedHealth Group - $88 billion in profit last year.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

And yet I've seen lower class Americans argue that they don't want to see USA's healthcare become public because there needs to be at least one country that provides the option to live in such system... The fact that it went directly against their own interest completely escaped them...

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The amount of propaganda US citizens are exposed to would make any totalitarian regime in history proud. And then people will go on about how CNN is somehow "left wing".

[–] unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think hitler might be a centrist in the United States.

[–] uis@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Sternout@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To explain why you are downvoted:

There are Americans who actually claim hitler/the nazis were socialist. They read the party like this nSdAP (nationalSOCIALISTgermanWORKERS Party).

Which of course makes no sense because politcal names rarely have to do anything with he policies.

They then happily ignore the NsDaP reading which is clearly politically on the right.

Also they ignore that the nazis were literally fascists.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, calling the Nazis socialist is like calling north Korea democratic just because it's in their name.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whoa! I never thought anyone would seriously call left someone so far-right to the point of being real nazi and Hitler himself.

[–] Sternout@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's a twisted product of american propaganda.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They cannot allow that someone "undeserving" gets help.

[–] mestari@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sad to be honest. People are actively demanding the dismantle of welfare state here in the Nordics too. Arbeit macht frei and so on.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 year ago

In my country, the most popular candidate is a right-winger who announced publically that we wants to eliminate the ministry of Education, the main institute to fund scientific research, public health, the national bank and he wants to make the US dollar the national currency. It's suicide, but people are celebrating the nonsense.

[–] burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We do have socialized medicine. We socialize the research and innovations and give it to corporations and insurance companies for them to have profits.

[–] PopShark@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Privatized profit, socialized losses

[–] Moohamin12@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Idk about others, but Singapore doesn't really have socialized healthcare.

We pay for it with our salaries into an account and the hospitals use that when necessary.

But we have all the luxury to have personal insurance and it doesn't really cost too much if you have a proper job and all. Coverage is pretty decent too.

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Same here. Its called... taxes.

[–] Alobarap@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

They probably meant universal health care, which can be implemented in a lot of different ways.

[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That's not true at all. While Medishield is the basic healthcare insurance solutions and Medisave comes from your CPF, Medifund is an endowment fund that works like a financial safety net to help needy Singaporeans who cannot afford hospital expenses despite Medisave and MediShield.

[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Germany also has a hybrid private / public system.